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Mythonian
08-11-2013, 12:32 AM
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Update 8.0

One More Week!


The Time Is Near!

In barely a week, the Third War will be starting. On Sunday, August 18th, at 6:00 PM EST, the first battle will be underway, and then we'll all get to see how well the new armies are doing. Both sides have changed quite a bit since last war, so this war's gonna be exciting. Who is more organized? Who will have more activity? Who's going to come out on top and get an early advantage in the war?

We've been trying to get things done in the short intermission between wars that we call Peacetime, but as the days tick by we can't get quite everything perfected, but we did manage to do quite a few adjustments, and even more improvements, to a huge variety of things.


Tiebreaker Games

In previous wars, we didn't really have a specified way to handle tiebreakers, so generally the Field Marshals would make an agreement to have their best players fight it out.

Then, last war, we changed it so that the High Command would fight, with subs from the next-highest ranking members. Now, we're changing it to something that should be more fair, and fun, for everyone. And it's pretty simple too. :)

If a game goes to a tiebreaker in order to decide the winner, then the Field Marshal will look at their players online, and choose who's going to play. They will then do the tiebreaker, and those players will be added to a list.

The next time a tiebreaker happens, the FM will do the same, but now they cannot choose anyone who is on the list. This ensures that it's no longer the same 8 people always doing tiebreakers, and everyone can get a shot at it.

An obvious problem would be if the list gets large, and not enough people can be found to play the match. To prevent this, people who haven't played on that map yet will be able to play even if they're on the list. If more players are still needed, those at the top of the list will be allowed to play, and will be moved to the end of the list.


The armies won't be paranoid at each other and accuse them of stacking just because someone in HC "randomly drops offline" just before the HC Battle. (this has been a problem for the last few Battles)
The former possibility of promoting someone of high skill into a Flag Officer position for tiebreakers will no longer be viable. (guarantees rank is always based off merit and capability) [note: Not accusing either army of this, but it's often been brought up as a negative of HC Battle tiebreakers]
Lower skilled individuals and newer members will now have a possibility of being "specially selected" for a tiebreaker match. (could make it a reward for hard work that week in practice, or if they got online late and played fewer games, etc)



A list must be kept and updated (wouldn't be hard. Would take 30 seconds to update)
FM/HC must double-check the list when selecting players (not any harder than going through the roster and getting the highest ranking players for an HC Battle, and simply asking in your Skype chat group for volunteers would get you enough eligible players)


Setting Up Battles

Like tiebreakers, the way we've set up battles has changed quite a lot. It used to be, up until the Second Reach War, that the Field Marshals always set up the games together. Starting the Second Reach War, I went neutral and decided I could help them do that and allow them to focus on organizing their armies. That position became the War Director, and had been helping the FMs set up games for 6 wars.

Until last war, we started getting larger and more active, so we had multiple people setting up multiple games simultaneously. This allowed us to do things 3 times faster, and eliminated most of the wait times between games.

Now, we're taking it a step further. Not a single person, not 3 people, not even 5 people setting up games. We're opening it up so that we'll have as many as we need. If we're gonna have 8 matches in the rotation on a map, we'll have those 8 games be set up, each by someone else. If we have 12, we'll try getting all 12 done simultaneously as well.

This could, if it works, totally eliminate long wait times and make the battles go smoother than ever before.

We're going to be creating a list of trustworthy members. People who both FMs vouch for will be added to our organizational Battle Night Co-Op Skype group, will get Statbook editing permissions, and will be able to set up their own games without a FM or WD present. They will be told who to invite, will inform us of the chosen gametype, and then start the game, easy and quick as that.

Of course, this does open up the possibility of cheating. Just in case, if anyone in the lobby is uncomfortable with it being set up by that specific person, they can request a FM/WD be present. Also, in the event where anyone abuses their position, we've got some very harsh punishments (FMs are vouching for these people, so fingers crossed that cheating never happens, ever).

These are the official punishments to ensure no cheating happens:

Forfeit for that game.
1 week forum suspension.
2 Battle Night suspension.
Month-long probationary period.
Permanent removal from the list.
Possible additional punishment depending on FM.

The FMs have already vouched for a few people, who'll be able to set up games for the first battle:

PanicPhan

VerbotenDonkey

HarryTheChin

Zeta Crossfire
Toast78901

Guzzie

Bl4yze

killerGUNNY132


On August 18th, these guys will be able to set up their own lobbies without needing an FM/WD (unless they or someone else in the game requests one), will be added to the Battle Night Co-Op Skype chat, and given editing permissions over the statbook (to input gametypes, game results, etc.).

If you are on that list, you still need to confirm yourself. Send me a PM telling me flat out that you vow to not abuse the position we're giving you, and that you accept the responsibilities and are aware of the punishments in case you do cheat. Once I receive that PM, you'll be added to the Skype chat, where you'll be told the specific details about it.


Peacetime Questionnaire!

We have received over 60 responses to the Questionnaire (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1-RV6wAeOsrYxjkE89-Aa_MbytGG8GHgdKRXsQBM2MLI/viewform), and got a lot of very good suggestions. Here are some summaries about some of the responses:


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Average: 8.4/10
Thanks again for filling out the Questionnaire (if you did it)!


FC:Rec3 Gametypes

Judging from the Questionnaire responses above, our gametypes last war were were pretty good. We've got a few adjustments that we're going to be making to them. (Note: We could very well change these mid-war, so give us feedback) Here's the gametypes from last war:

Conflict / H. Conflict : 120 games played (21%)
Extraction / H. Extraction : 91 games played (16%)
Asset / H. Asset : 88 games played (15%)
Liberation / S. Liberation / H. Liberation / S. H. Liberation : 80 games played (14%)
Hill 30 / H. Hill 30 : 72 games played (13%)
Occupation / H. Occupation : 57 games played (10%)
Executive : 33 games played (6%)
Dominion : 28 games played (5%)

A lot of people wanted to replace Hill 30 with Lockdown (one-base Dominion), and considering the KotH glitch it seems to be the best course of action. However, since 343 has Dominion disabled on most small maps, not all maps would be able to do Hill 30. Those maps would be forced to have 1 less gametype option. This would also be replacing Dominion.

Executive: Hasn't been played often, and I haven't liked how the settings work, so we're switching it back to defend MM traits for the King. This makes the gametype easier to learn and more intuitive, rather than having traits which are very strange for newer members. Because of this, Executive will be able to be used in Heavy gametypes now.

Occupation: I like the regular variant, but the Heavy variant can be improved. Awhile ago, a multi-hill possibility was brought up, and we're going to try using it, as I think it could be quite interesting and make H. Occupation better (fewer people piled into a single area will help framerate issues also).

Ordnance: The current ordnance drops do not provide any heavy power weapons like Snipers/Rockets, which a lot of people have liked, but the Left Slot feels kind of useless right now, and getting a Sword in an 8v8 feels like a wasted ordnance. I'm considering this:

Left Slot
Middle Slot
Right Slot


Shotgun
Energy Sword
Gravity Hammer
Scattershot
SAW
Sticky Detonator
Railgun
Needler
Concussion Rifle
Speed Boost
Damage Boost
Overshield
Frag Grenades
Plasma Grenades
Pulse Grenades


NOTE: The points required to receive Ordnance will vary by gametype. Objective games, for instance, will have higher point requirements.We would end up with the following gametype list:

Conflict / H. Conflict
Extraction / H. Extraction
Asset / H. Asset
Liberation / S. Liberation / H. Liberation / S. H. Liberation
Lockdown / H. Lockdown
Occupation / H. Occupation
Executive / H. Executive


FC:Rec3 Map Selection Ceremony

Last war, we livestreamed the Map Selection Ceremony. This war, we will be doing the same. The Map Selection Ceremony is going to be tomorrow/today (Sunday, August 11th), at 7:00 PM EST. It will be livestreamed at http://www.twitch.tv/ForerunnerConflict

Both armies will take turns selecting maps. REDD, since they won last war, will choose first, starting with their Capital, and then BLUE will choose theirs, and back and forth until all 30 maps have been chosen. We have over 80 maps listed, so we should reach 30 no problem. :)

Since Forge has a limit of 8 players, each army will have 3 representatives. The last two spots will be open for the WD. Since WSxPhoenix will not be able to be on XBL until Tuesday, I'll be acting as WD for the event.

So once again, at 7:00 PM EST (18 hours after this post is made), the ceremony will begin. After that, we'll announce the maps separately, and then Monday or Tuesday the first Attack Plans will be posted in time for the first Battle Night on the 18th!

Be there!


FC:Rec3 Rules of Engagement


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The Rules of Engagement can be reached by clicking the image above.

I had the idea of creating a graphical RoE this war, and have spent many hours on it. Seriously, I wanted to make this Update 24 hours ago, but couldn't do it because I wasn't finished with the RoE graphics. However, I'm still not done, so I'm just gonna go ahead and release Article I & II now, with the rest released within the next few days. In the mean time, you can read the full text version.



That's all for now, so make sure you watch the livestream of the Map Selection Ceremony!
~Mythonian :cyborg:

Harry
08-11-2013, 12:37 AM
Get hyped everyone!

ThatAwkardGuy
08-11-2013, 12:46 AM
I am looking forward to this next war. Big things for Blue this time around.

Nicholas Sapien
08-11-2013, 12:49 AM
boo

no explosion :/

Mythonian
08-11-2013, 12:50 AM
boo

no explosion :/

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Spattan177
08-11-2013, 01:11 AM
im gonna miss the first battle :( :( :(

UNLUCKY NUM13ER
08-11-2013, 01:56 AM
Halo: Reach vets FTW! This all sounds great Myth. I have high hopes for this next war. The last one was one of the greatest wars I have ever played in. Here's to another great one!

Silko
08-11-2013, 03:54 AM
Great update Myth! Also the RoE is sexy as hell

OPOC1L1PSE
08-11-2013, 05:01 AM
Yay new war. Hope it's as good as the last one :)

DECEIT
08-11-2013, 08:44 AM
Hopefully I'm not working Sunday

BlazeTokayuma
08-11-2013, 10:15 AM
This time, I'm set! Ready for this war!

Guzzie
08-11-2013, 10:21 AM
Good job as always myth.

Also, could all REDD squad leaders please send me a message on XBL with your squad name. That way, if I don't have you on my friends list, I can just quickly look at my messages and have your info there.

One more thing to consider is to add a section to the stat book dedicated to squads and their leaders. People setting up games can then use the stat book as a means of inviting people into lobbies.

Anarchy
08-11-2013, 11:20 AM
Wait, my multi-hill variant is being used?

Kickass and stuff.

Nicholas Sapien
08-11-2013, 11:38 AM
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satisfied

VerbotenDonkey
08-11-2013, 11:43 AM
I would like to not set up battles, please. I would like to play. :P

Also, has a list of maps been confirmed? O.o Have we added any new maps?

Anarchy
08-11-2013, 11:44 AM
I would like to not set up battles, please. I would like to play. :P

Also, has a list of maps been confirmed? O.o Have we added any new maps?

The list of maps has been confirmed. Though it is a list of like 80, so it doesn't necessarily reflect what will be on the WARMAP, just all our options.

Maxdoggy
08-11-2013, 12:21 PM
Awesome update is awesome.


And Donkey, the WarMap will be finalized tonight as the HC's are meeting tonight.

Guzzie
08-11-2013, 12:25 PM
I would like to not set up battles, please. I would like to play. :P

Also, has a list of maps been confirmed? O.o Have we added any new maps?
You would only set up the games that you would be on, so you would set up your REDWATCH fire team games. I'm assuming the rest of REDWATCH or any other squad with multiple fire teams would be set up by an FM or WD.

Mythonian
08-11-2013, 12:50 PM
You would only set up the games that you would be on, so you would set up your REDWATCH fire team games. I'm assuming the rest of REDWATCH or any other squad with multiple fire teams would be set up by an FM or WD.

^

Our goal from this is to eventually have most games be able to be set up without needing an extra person. One of the members in the game would be on the list, would simply invite the opposing team, set up the gametype, and then play the game. Then they'd move right on to the next game and so on.

Aside from games sometimes being delayed (restarting due to lag, having trouble getting their last person, etc.), this should remove wait times completely.

Zeta Crossfire
08-11-2013, 02:16 PM
Great update myth, wow only a week away I'm excited.

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Great update myth, wow only a week away I'm excited.

Al Capone111
08-11-2013, 02:52 PM
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Deathhawk
08-11-2013, 04:08 PM
Wow, awesome updates. I love the new systems.

You guys in the war council are doing great things.
Keep it up.

RaZ Vader
08-12-2013, 03:59 PM
Great Update Gents. it goes without saying what I am about to say.

Proud of you.

MedeDust
08-12-2013, 04:52 PM
Just you guys wait for next week ^_^

Andimion
08-12-2013, 05:37 PM
I am so unbelievably saddened to not be able to make the map selections tonight.. I looked forward to it, but I trust BlackHawk and the other Blue HC members to make the right choices.

I'm also saddened to not be able to make the kick off Sunday.. Fucking eh.

And Myth, you never cease to amaze and back up Raz and the other great leaders on firing you up the totem pole to where you are today. Out standing work bud.

Jam Cliché
08-12-2013, 05:39 PM
I am so unbelievably saddened to not be able to make the map selections tonight.. I looked forward to it, but I trust BlackHawk and the other Blue HC members to make the right choices.

I'm also saddened to not be able to make the kick off Sunday.. Fucking eh.

And Myth, you never cease to amaze and back up Raz and the other great leaders on firing you up the totem pole to where you are today. Out standing work bud.

Selections were yesterday night, sir.

Maxdoggy
08-12-2013, 05:48 PM
I am so unbelievably saddened to not be able to make the map selections tonight.. I looked forward to it, but I trust BlackHawk and the other Blue HC members to make the right choices.

I'm also saddened to not be able to make the kick off Sunday.. Fucking eh.

And Myth, you never cease to amaze and back up Raz and the other great leaders on firing you up the totem pole to where you are today. Out standing work bud.


Selections were yesterday night, sir.

HE DID IT! I KNEW HE COULD!!

ANDIMION MUST'VE COMPLETED HIS TIME MACHINE AND IT WORKED!!!!!!!!

WE MUST TRY TO GO FURTHER BACK IN TIME!!!


Or he sucks at reading...lol

Blackhawk570
08-12-2013, 06:29 PM
We cannot take the credit in BLUE. All credit is given to the almighty 8-ball

Maxdoggy
08-12-2013, 07:00 PM
We cannot take the credit in BLUE. All credit is given to the almighty 8-ball

This is your BLUE Field Marshall, FC.

Asian and using an 8-ball.
(Hopefully not a drug reference)

MedeDust
08-12-2013, 07:59 PM
This is your BLUE Field Marshall, FC.

Asian and using an 8-ball.
(Hopefully not a drug reference)
They've always been weird... well at least two of them.

Maxdoggy
08-17-2013, 11:52 PM
The mobile website is all pretty now!