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WM Feedback
12-20-2013, 06:21 PM
How many of you have tried this?
I've had more fun on Halo 4 over the last few weeks than at any other time. Ever.

It's because we've been voting exclusively for legendary slayer.

I missed having an AA for maybe 2 games. After that, it's been amazing. The flow is just.... words cannot describe how much better it is.


The Challenge
I know a lot of you feel that playing legendary slayer is restrictive. To those of you that think that way, I challenge you to get a full team of 4 and vote only for legendary for at least 10 consecutive games. Back out of the lobby if you have to.

After you've done it. Go back to infinity. If you can honestly tell me that you prefer getting camo-sniped, boltshotted, and mowed down by saws, I'll never bother you about settings again.

bl4yze
12-20-2013, 06:23 PM
Been saying this for the past two wars ;)

HighLight
12-20-2013, 06:41 PM
I'm just going to stick with halo 3. thx

C-Dumps
12-20-2013, 07:04 PM
i couldnt agree with feedback any more. he is 100% right legendary is a needed gametype. it provides fair gameplay all around. and gives equipment on the map a reason to be picked up

bl4yze
12-20-2013, 07:06 PM
i couldnt agree with feedback any more. he is 100% right legendary is a needed gametype. it provides fair gameplay all around. and gives equipment on the map a reason to be picked up
BUT I NEED MY SAW AND JETPAK PLZ

silversleek
12-20-2013, 07:07 PM
if you get surprised by a boltshot more than once, maybe twice in a game, you deserve it. That's all i'll say to that.

Saw's can be taken down fairly easily if you know what you're doing because it often makes people cocky.

Camo and ammo, well, fuck camo and ammo, i'll give you that one.

Silko
12-20-2013, 07:07 PM
i couldnt agree with feedback any more. he is 100% right legendary is a needed gametype. it provides fair gameplay all around. and gives equipment on the map a reason to be picked up

I support this

C-Dumps
12-20-2013, 07:22 PM
i think a set loadout gametype with no ordinance is necessary. i dont mind a saw as long as it spawns on the map. boltchots jetpacks camo promethean stickies and plasma pistols all need to be gone so to make it fair just make a set loadout of "sprint, frag grenades, BR, AR secondary, resupply, and explosives. especially if we are playing a remade map from halo 3 or halo 2

bl4yze
12-20-2013, 07:35 PM
if you get surprised by a boltshot more than once, maybe twice in a game, you deserve it. That's all i'll say to that.

Saw's can be taken down fairly easily if you know what you're doing because it often makes people cocky.

Camo and ammo, well, fuck camo and ammo, i'll give you that one.

a) Then it becomes a battle of who can charge their boltshot first. It's not a matter of being surprised by a boltshot, rather who can get the mid range shield-dropping boltshot off and switch to their primary first.

b) Saws can also be devastating "if you know what you're doing".

c) Just fuck camo in general.

WM Feedback
12-20-2013, 08:24 PM
Remember this isn't just a settings discussion thread.

I genuinely want you to take my challenge, and tell me what you think afterwards.


Seriously. Do it. This Weekend. Or tonight. Or RIGHT NOW.

So if you need somebody to team with. Message me anytime this weekend, I'll grab some legacy members and we'll play. Either in MM or customs.

bl4yze
12-20-2013, 08:39 PM
Remember this isn't just a settings discussion thread.

I genuinely want you to take my challenge, and tell me what you think afterwards.


Seriously. Do it. This Weekend. Or tonight. Or RIGHT NOW.


So if you need somebody to team with. Message me anytime this weekend, I'll grab some legacy members and we'll play. Either in MM or customs.


I might be up to play some v5 settings this weekend if anyone's up for it.

silversleek
12-20-2013, 09:03 PM
a) Then it becomes a battle of who can charge their boltshot first. It's not a matter of being surprised by a boltshot, rather who can get the mid range shield-dropping boltshot off and switch to their primary first.

b) Saws can also be devastating "if you know what you're doing".

c) Just fuck camo in general.

a) Hardly. If a team is going boltshot heavy you could switch up to a longer range playstyle, or go with a grenadier loadout to hit them as they wait at corners. Also, it's such a weak argument. "Who can shoot the other one faster" works with every gun.

b)fair point

c) as someone who played through avp on the hardest difficulty and multiplayer, halo camo is easytown, but i'll give you that it's probably annoying for others.

bl4yze
12-20-2013, 09:18 PM
a) Hardly. If a team is going boltshot heavy you could switch up to a longer range playstyle, or go with a grenadier loadout to hit them as they wait at corners. Also, it's such a weak argument. "Who can shoot the other one faster" works with every gun.

b)fair point

c) as someone who played through avp on the hardest difficulty and multiplayer, halo camo is easytown, but i'll give you that it's probably annoying for others.

The boltshot promotes crouching or sitting behind corners. A "longer range playstyle" works for slayer, but not so much for OBJ games. Sitting in a corner by your flag on Pit with a boltshot is super mlg skillful.

silversleek
12-20-2013, 09:47 PM
The boltshot promotes crouching or sitting behind corners. A "longer range playstyle" works for slayer, but not so much for OBJ games. Sitting in a corner by your flag on Pit with a boltshot is super mlg skillful.

wait on power weapon spawn, use a grenadier glass, move in as a team with nades and power weapons, slaughter everyone in the base. camping inside an objective base with boltshots rarely a good plan. even if it's just one guy, nades out, when he backs away to avoid being hit by the first/second nades, gun him down.

it's especially easy in games with radar, because there's a very distinct movement someone makes when they go around a corner and then move back towards it that shows a boltshots imminent, even before the sounds.

Spattan177
12-20-2013, 11:49 PM
I've been playing legendary slayer longer than this challenge 'as been 'round!

Edit

P*ss off! good to finally say that. :) been wanting to say it for no reason all week :P

EagleOne
12-21-2013, 12:17 AM
Halo 2 Anniversary COMING SOON.

Eagle out.

Zeta Crossfire
12-21-2013, 01:31 AM
I've done it many times, I still prefer the Infinity. I've grown out of pure arena shooters and while I do enjoy legendary I like Infinity more. There's more chaos and unpredictability and I like that a lot.

bl4yze
12-21-2013, 02:16 AM
wait on power weapon spawn, use a grenadier glass, move in as a team with nades and power weapons, slaughter everyone in the base. camping inside an objective base with boltshots rarely a good plan. even if it's just one guy, nades out, when he backs away to avoid being hit by the first/second nades, gun him down.

it's especially easy in games with radar, because there's a very distinct movement someone makes when they go around a corner and then move back towards it that shows a boltshots imminent, even before the sounds.

I'm not saying it's hard to counter. It's a no skill weapon that's a cop out for players who like to sit behind corners, or put themselves in stupid situations. It's basically a required secondary in FC on any non-vehicle map because of how prevalent it is. I'd be fine with a couple on the map, but spawning with it is retarded.

- - - Updated - - -


I've done it many times, I still prefer the Infinity. I've grown out of pure arena shooters and while I do enjoy legendary I like Infinity more. There's more chaos and unpredictability and I like that a lot.

If you want chaos play battlefield.

Zeta Crossfire
12-21-2013, 03:14 AM
I do play battlefield it's my second favorite fps. Doesn't match 8v8 2 flag coag though, I don't like halo 4v4 which is why I mostly play big team.

WM Feedback
12-21-2013, 10:33 PM
I've been playing legendary slayer longer than this challenge 'as been 'round!


I've done it many times, I still prefer the Infinity.

I pulled some matchmaking records and here's what I found:

Zeta I went all the way back to the beginning of august. You've played 5 games of legendary since then.

Spattan177 You've only played 1 game of legendary over the same time period.

Silversleek I had to go back to the middle of July to even find 1 game of legendary.

You're all so dead set against these settings that you've convinced yourselves that you've given them a fair chance.


You haven't.

Now, either open your minds and go play some, or please see yourselves out of this thread.

Zeta Crossfire
12-21-2013, 10:36 PM
Go back father if you still want to see more. And after playing Halo since it came out, the same way, I'm starting to get tired of straight up arena game play. I like load outs (Ordinance is another story) and yes I feel like I've given legendary slayer a fair try.

WM Feedback
12-21-2013, 10:38 PM
Go back father

You're the one claiming a position of experience. The burden of proof falls on you.

Zeta Crossfire
12-21-2013, 10:41 PM
You're the one claiming a position of experience. The burden of proof falls on you.

If you're not willing to go back father then there isn't anything else I can do for you. But I've played the game type and will continue to post in this thread as I please.

WM Feedback
12-21-2013, 10:47 PM
The point of this thread is to invite people to consistently play the gametype.

The point of THAT is to provide contrast. Being accustomed to legendary and playing infinity is a much different experience than being accustomed to infinity and playing legendary.

I'll bet you a 12-month subscription that you haven't done that, and I would still really like you to try it,

Zeta Crossfire
12-21-2013, 10:54 PM
What kind of bet? Bet that I haven't played at least 10 games?

Also I don't need to play it every single game type to know I dislike it. I already don't like 4v4 matchmaking, I play with others but I prefer 8v8. I like 4v4 more on halo 4 then I've liked it since Halo 2. Take away the things I like about Halo 4 multiplayer and It goes back to Halo 3 4v4 which I don't like.

I don't need play something I already dislike, add another lever of dislike on top of that and play it 10 times in a row.

Is there a legendary Big team? If so then I'll give your challenge a try.

WM Feedback
12-21-2013, 10:57 PM
Also I don't need to play it every single game to know I dislike it.

If you don't leave the room long enough, you'll never notice how bad it smells.

KazuhLLL
12-21-2013, 10:57 PM
If you're not willing to go back father then there isn't anything else I can do for you. But I've played the game type and will continue to post in this thread as I please.

He went back to August. Legendary Slayer came out July 15th, and it spent like 3 months being AR only spawns (which is unrepresentative of the challenge Feedback is presenting). So his argument of you not playing the gametype enough to give it a fair chance is quite valid.

Zeta Crossfire
12-21-2013, 11:00 PM
If you don't leave the room long enough, you'll never notice how bad it smells.

So if I actively dislike something, something new comes out and I like it, I should go back to something I actively dislike instead of sticking with the thing I like?

WM Feedback
12-21-2013, 11:01 PM
If you wish to have an informed opinion regarding the original subject of this thread. Yes.

Zeta Crossfire
12-21-2013, 11:03 PM
If you wish to have an informed opinion regarding the original subject of this thread. Yes.

all right, here I GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

bl4yze
12-21-2013, 11:24 PM
Go back father

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VerbotenDonkey
12-21-2013, 11:25 PM
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Tahaaaa.

Maxdoggy
12-21-2013, 11:54 PM
The puns are strong with this one.

IX Dr Doom XI
12-22-2013, 12:06 AM
Challenge Accepted

Zeta Crossfire
12-22-2013, 12:16 AM
Challenge Accepted

Doing the challenge right now. Doom when you're on tomorrow or the next day I'll help you finish up.

Zeta Crossfire
12-22-2013, 02:07 AM
Challenge Complete.

After 13 games of Legendary slayer, and then a few of infinity slayer this is what I learned

While the bolt shot is annoying I don't find it nearly as annoying as everyone else seems to.

Also if we get to a point that we have to use load outs I want AR starts. God I forgot how much I liked the AR.


Still prefer Infinity, but if we had AR start load outs I would be ok with it.

Spattan177
12-22-2013, 02:07 AM
challenge completed. I like legendary slayer but I'm an AR elitist as many of us now know :P

Officer Demon
12-22-2013, 02:08 AM
Challenge complete

HAVOK101
12-22-2013, 02:08 AM
Just finished wit spatan177, officer demon, and zeta crossfire

WM Feedback
12-22-2013, 02:40 AM
Thanks guys! I hope you had fun :)

Zeta, sorry I had to give you so much attitude earlier. I just really wanted somebody to actually do it.

EagleOne
12-22-2013, 02:43 AM
Zeta, did Donkey approve of the REDWATCH VETERAN status in your sig?

What would it take to resurrect REDWATCH?

Eagle out.

KazuhLLL
12-22-2013, 11:23 AM
Also if we get to a point that we have to use load outs I want AR starts. God I forgot how much I liked the AR.


The AR is a beast in Halo 4.

Lol its James
12-22-2013, 12:21 PM
Feedback send me a FR later, I'll try this out with some legacy people. Personally I'm exactly like zeta, I like to keep in 8v8s, those are were I have the most fun. But I wouldn't mind giving it a go.

JEWmanji
12-22-2013, 01:29 PM
Feedback send me a FR later, I'll try this out with some legacy people. Personally I'm exactly like zeta, I like to keep in 8v8s, those are were I have the most fun. But I wouldn't mind giving it a go.

I'm totally down for this

Zeta Crossfire
12-22-2013, 05:02 PM
(Eagle message me on Skype)


It's cool feedback. This made me realize how much I dislike BR spawns, like to spawn with the AR, and just basically confirm my belief.

I wouldn't put up to much of a fight if people wanted to take out bolt shots but I really don't mind keeping jet packs and such even if I don't use them.

WM Feedback
12-22-2013, 05:46 PM
Jew and James,

FR's sent!

I should be free around 8:00EST if that works for you. Legacy has a squad meeting and some scrims tonight.

C-Dumps
12-24-2013, 03:39 AM
(Eagle message me on Skype)


It's cool feedback. This made me realize how much I dislike BR spawns, like to spawn with the AR, and just basically confirm my belief.


But you do spawn with the AR

Zeta Crossfire
12-24-2013, 03:40 AM
AR as your main spawn, and then something like magnum as secondary. Not br spawna

KazuhLLL
12-24-2013, 12:30 PM
AR as your main spawn, and then something like magnum as secondary. Not br spawna

The first version of Legendary slayer had AR-only spawns and it was terrible. As soon as a team got their hands on some BRs, it's was just spawn killing for the rest of the game.

It wouldn't be quite as bad with a AR-magnum, but it would still have the same problem. A Magnum is only marginally better against a team of BRs than the AR is.