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Maxdoggy
01-14-2014, 01:01 PM
Telecoms now have the power to restrict access to certain websites, throttle access to certain websites (ie Netflix, YouTube), and do whatever the hell they want now.

http://bgr.com/2014/01/14/net-neutrality-court-ruling/

My favorite part of the Appeals Court's ruling (http://www.scribd.com/doc/199616222/DC-Net-Neutrality-ruling):
Page 40 - Speaking about consumers switching to another ISP.

Moreover, the Commission emphasized, many end users may have no option to switch, or at least face very limited options...
Page 73 - Speaking about consumers having other ISP options.

...consumers, of course, have options; they can go to another broadband provider if they want to...

So basically, 33 pages after they state that the end users have little or no options to switch, they completely back-pedal and say they can go to another provider if they want to?



Thanks, US Politicians not giving a fuck to understand what the hell is going on and blindly accepting the shit ton of money thrown at them if they rule a certain way.


If you're reading this thread and have no idea what Net Neutrality is or why it's bad, I explain in the very first Maxdoggy Gaming Rant video! Yay politics!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDnUCwOj8DQ

KazuhLLL
01-14-2014, 01:12 PM
Google Fiber to the rescue? Please?


In fact, the court actually argues that the United States is overflowing with competitive options in the home broadband market and cites Google Fiber — which is currently available in only three markets — as evidence that competition is robust.

We really need technology-savvy people in government... They probably were just like, "Wait, does Google provide internet, or is Google the Internet? Oh well, it's probably close enough either way. We'll just use them as an excuse anyway because they're such a well-known company. What were we talking about?"

Mythonian
01-14-2014, 03:07 PM
Google Fiber to the rescue?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m2MJlS3B_A

Deathhawk
01-14-2014, 03:17 PM
I really want to leave the United States.

Maybe if I have the money one day.

Maxdoggy
01-14-2014, 03:39 PM
I really want to leave the United States.

Maybe if I have the money one day.

Canada is the next-best option, but they have their own litany of issues too.

Nowhere is safe and free anymore! Yay!

Fuzzy
01-14-2014, 03:59 PM
Canada is the next-best option, but they have their own litany of issues too.

Nowhere is safe and free anymore! Yay!

We have no issues! Except maybe Rob Ford...

Maxdoggy
01-14-2014, 06:13 PM
We have no issues! Except maybe Rob Ford...

And you...you live there. lol

Fuzzy
01-14-2014, 06:16 PM
And you...you live there. lol

:( x_x

Spattan177
01-14-2014, 06:31 PM
guys! guys! it's not okay! I'm not building a secret island country that will be called... Ryssia. Like Russia but with a Y instead of a U.

But in seriousness yeah. f*** politics.

VerbotenDonkey
01-14-2014, 07:20 PM
But in seriousness yeah. f*** politics.

Fuck her? But I barely knew her!

Silko
01-14-2014, 08:05 PM
Don't look to google to be your savior

http://www.komando.com/tips/index.aspx?id=15869

They have decided to give everyone on the internet your gmail address

Maxdoggy
01-14-2014, 08:19 PM
If you're reading this thread and have no idea what Net Neutrality is or why it's bad, I explain in the very first Maxdoggy Gaming Rant video! Yay politics!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDnUCwOj8DQ

VerbotenDonkey
01-14-2014, 08:25 PM
Google recently bought several robotics companies. And now the Government wants us to flock to them too. It's all coming together now ... we're on to you Skynet.

Mythonian
01-14-2014, 08:50 PM
Google recently bought several robotics companies. And now the Government wants us to flock to them too. It's all coming together now ... we're on to you Skynet.

:satanbanana:

KazuhLLL
01-14-2014, 08:57 PM
Don't look to google to be your savior

http://www.komando.com/tips/index.aspx?id=15869

They have decided to give everyone on the internet your gmail address

That has literally nothing to do with net neutrality.

And in any case:


However, if someone is following you on Google+, which anyone can do without your approval, they can also send you an email. The email will show up in the Social inbox tab in Gmail.

It is important to note that the sender won't get your email address. You have to respond or add them to a circle for that to happen. So, your best bet is just to ignore anyone you don't want to talk to and they'll go away.


Fortunately, Google did include a setting that lets you opt out.

In Gmail, click the gear icon in the upper right corner and select Settings. Scroll down to find "Email via Google+" and set it to "No one."

Mythonian
01-14-2014, 09:00 PM
If you're reading this thread and have no idea what Net Neutrality is or why it's bad, I explain in the very first Maxdoggy Gaming Rant video! Yay politics!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDnUCwOj8DQ

On the note you made about costs and such, you should take a look at www.netindex.com.

Silko
01-14-2014, 09:08 PM
That has literally nothing to do with net neutrality.

And in any case:

I understand that but what I am saying is dont expect Google to be the land of milk and honey. The milk is spoiled and bears ate all the honey.

KazuhLLL
01-14-2014, 09:12 PM
I understand that but what I am saying is dont expect Google to be the land of milk and honey. The milk is spoiled and bears ate all the honey.

No company is a saint. They're in it to make money, just like all the others. The difference is that at least Google offers decent services (for a reasonable price) unlike Comcast/AT&T/TWC/etc.

Maxdoggy
01-14-2014, 09:20 PM
No company is a saint. They're in it to make money, just like all the others. The difference is that at least Google offers decent services (for a reasonable price) unlike Comcast/AT&T/TWC/etc.

^^This.

The US Court of Appeals say that there is competition enough so that if companies DO in fact throttle/restrict access to websites/apps/services, users can just switch and get similar service for the same amount of money!

That situation is only true for like 30% of the US.

Maxdoggy
01-15-2014, 10:30 AM
Sorry for the double-post, but there is an argument going on in the comments section of my Net Neutrality video and it's quite enjoyable. :P

Silko
01-15-2014, 01:10 PM
Sorry for the double-post, but there is an argument going on in the comments section of my Net Neutrality video and it's quite enjoyable. :P

Shameless plug is shameless

Maxdoggy
01-15-2014, 01:19 PM
Shameless plug is shameless

Hell yeah it is.

People are getting super involved in that convo, though. There's this one douche defending the cable companies and everyone is just like "STAHP YOU'RE DUMB!" and so-on and so-forth.

Maxdoggy
01-15-2014, 05:23 PM
UPDATE: Demand Progress has created a petition to let the FCC know that they need to Protect the Internet and either propose a new version of Net Neutrality or appeal the court decision. Please sign it and Protect the Net!
http://act.demandprogress.org/sign/fcc_net_neutrality/?akid=2440.530469.IqUt-h&rd=1&t=1