Prevent Cable Company F**kery

[Maxdoggy]

This is literally the most important video you will ever watch during all the years of you using the Internet.

Help Prevent Cable Company Fuckery, watch this video, and visit www.FCC.gov/comments to make it known that we will not stand with our Internet being fucked with!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpbOEoRrHyU

[Spattan177]

I will use my anger (We've overstocked), I will yell at the companies, I will fly and be pretty, but I will not turn on caps. To war!

[Fuzzy]

Good thing I am Canadian...

[Maxdoggy]

I will use my anger (We've overstocked), I will yell at the companies, I will fly and be pretty, but I will not turn on caps. To war!

HELL YEAH!! CAPS LOCK TOO!!


Good thing I am Canadian...

If we go down, you go down, buddy. And you know it!

[riphelix]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&persist_app=1&v=-5uzJVkeaUI

[purple gamer 17]

Ice castle would give her hypothermia and she dead in an hour.

[NervyDestroyer]

I have no idea what the fuck he was talking about can someone explain please

[Silko]

Hey Max how did your conversation with the thirstiest man in the US go?

For those who do not stay on top of politics:

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[Maxdoggy]

I have no idea what the fuck he was talking about can someone explain please

Basically the Cable Companies like Comcast and Verizon want to create a "fast lane" for the Internet, while everyone else is on the "slow lane". To get on the "fast lane", people like Google and Netflix would have to pay Comcast for better connections. This allows cable companies to "double dip" and increase their already-obscene amounts of profits.

For start-up companies, like the next Facebook company, or the next Netflix, the "fast lane" will be priced at an incredibly high amount, effectively allowing the large corporations to get larger, eventually leading to monopolies.

With monopolies, and even today, these cable companies are not improving their network speeds and connections. In fact, the USA ranks below 30+ other countries in terms of speed of connection, even though we pay the MOST for our shitty connections.

The TRUE idea of Net Neutrality (aka Preventing Cable Company Fuckery) is that EVERYONE is one the "same lane" and has the same, equal opportunity to post and use content on the Internet. The Internet was founded on this principle of Net Neutrality, but Cable Companies want to increase their already-obscene profits and restrict competition.

Visit http://www.FCC.gov/comments and post a comment on the "14-28" proposal (it's the one with the most comments) saying that for the reasons I listed above that we should have TRUE Net Neutrality with EVERYONE on the same lane (otherwise known as Title II Regulation).

The FCC's website is hosted by a shitty government server on-purpose so that people will get impatient with the loading times and NOT comment on it. It took me like five minutes to post my already pre-written comment on there.

[NervyDestroyer]

Basically the Cable Companies like Comcast and Verizon want to create a "fast lane" for the Internet, while everyone else is on the "slow lane". To get on the "fast lane", people like Google and Netflix would have to pay Comcast for better connections. This allows cable companies to "double dip" and increase their already-obscene amounts of profits.

For start-up companies, like the next Facebook company, or the next Netflix, the "fast lane" will be priced at an incredibly high amount, effectively allowing the large corporations to get larger, eventually leading to monopolies.

With monopolies, and even today, these cable companies are not improving their network speeds and connections. In fact, the USA ranks below 30+ other countries in terms of speed of connection, even though we pay the MOST for our shitty connections.

The TRUE idea of Net Neutrality (aka Preventing Cable Company Fuckery) is that EVERYONE is one the "same lane" and has the same, equal opportunity to post and use content on the Internet. The Internet was founded on this principle of Net Neutrality, but Cable Companies want to increase their already-obscene profits and restrict competition.

Visit http://www.FCC.gov/comments and post a comment on the "14-28" proposal (it's the one with the most comments) saying that for the reasons I listed above that we should have TRUE Net Neutrality with EVERYONE on the same lane (otherwise known as Title II Regulation).

The FCC's website is hosted by a shitty government server on-purpose so that people will get impatient with the loading times and NOT comment on it. It took me like five minutes to post my already pre-written comment on there.

Are you fucking kidding me?! I knew it was bad, but now we hit fucking rock bottom and they are digging out the rocks!

[Maxdoggy]

Are you fucking kidding me?! I knew it was bad, but now we hit fucking rock bottom and they are digging out the rocks!

Yeah, it's kinda bad. I'm really hopeful that John Oliver's video will help explain to everyone that Net Neutrality being tampered with is a terrible thing and that we need to collectively Prevent Cable Company Fuckery.

So please, everyone reading this, visit http://www.FCC.gov/comments and make your voice heard about this issue. Don't let the lobbyists in government and the Cable Companies win. We will not stand for our Internet being cannibalized and cable-ized, so we need to make our voices heard. Thanks! :)

[Graycochea]

Done commented.

[Maxdoggy]

Done commented.

Yay! Thanks so much!

PREVENT CABLE COMPANY FUCKERY, GUYS! DO IT!

http://www.fcc.gov/comments

[Silko]

Hey Max how did your conversation with the thirstiest man in the US go?

For those who do not stay on top of politics:

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Max don't you ignore me or I'll hit you with a newspaper!

[Maxdoggy]

Max don't you ignore me or I'll hit you with a newspaper!

I didn't have a conversation with him - my Dad did as it was 2am my time when he had a chance to speak with him.

Rubio basically doesn't think the government should be involved in as many things as it is right now. He agrees with the goals of Net Neutrality, but apparently Obama wants to open up control of the Internet to International Regulation, and anything that's not AMERICA is immediately off the table for Republicans. :/

[Maxdoggy]

URGENT! Rep. Blackburn from Virginia just snuck in an amendment to HR 5016 that is going for a vote TODAY in Congress that would prevent the FCC from allowing cities to create their own ISPs so that companies like Comcast and TimeWarner can buy out entire cities.

This amendment completely strips away the FCC's power (even more than it already has been) and could prevent Net Neutrality from ever being achieved.

CALL your congressperson through the links here, where BoingBoing explains what's going on.
http://boingboing.net/2014/07/16/congress-wants-to-shut-down-br.html

[KazuhLLL]

URGENT! Rep. Blackburn from Virginia just snuck in an amendment to HR 5016 that is going for a vote TODAY in Congress that would prevent the FCC from allowing cities to create their own ISPs so that companies like Comcast and TimeWarner can buy out entire cities.

This amendment completely strips away the FCC's power (even more than it already has been) and could prevent Net Neutrality from ever being achieved.

CALL your congressperson through the links here, where BoingBoing explains what's going on.
http://boingboing.net/2014/07/16/congress-wants-to-shut-down-br.html


under the guise of protecting states from federal interference

So he's fighting federal interference by implementing federal restrictions? Makes sense.

/s

[Spattan177]

Yep, we're screwed.

[Maxdoggy]

So he's fighting federal interference by implementing federal restrictions? Makes sense.

/s


Yep, we're screwed.

The EFF link on that page, found HERE (https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/07/act-immediately-stop-congresss-sneaky-move-shut-down-broadband-competition) allows you to get connected to your representative via a phone call just by entering in your phone number - the EFF does all the legwork and phones them for you so you don't have to wait in a queue.

I just called my rep and her assistant was very receptive to the problem.

PLEASE CALL IN AND LET YOUR REP KNOW ABOUT THIS PROBLEM. There's even a script for you! :)

[Silko]

Fucking Republicans! Party of freedom my ass!

Next thing you know we will have to pay to use nicer fucking roads.

[CrazyKiller4561]

Fucking Republicans! Party of freedom my ass!

Next thing you know we will have to pay to use nicer fucking roads.

Their called toll roads! xD

[Mythonian]

Fucking Republicans! Party of freedom my ass!

Tea Party ftw! xD

[Anarchy]

I don't see how allowing a municipality to run an ISP is of any benefit to anyone, or how it makes cable companies less likely to become Monopolistic.

Actually, Bell buying up all the old small town municipal phone companies is kind of what caused the last communication infrastructure monopoly.

Internet sucks right now because people let it suck, not because companies are forcing it down.

[Maxdoggy]

I don't see how allowing a municipality to run an ISP is of any benefit to anyone, or how it makes cable companies less likely to become Monopolistic.

Actually, Bell buying up all the old small town municipal phone companies is kind of what caused the last communication infrastructure monopoly.

Internet sucks right now because people let it suck, not because companies are forcing it down.

It's an issue of choice and competition.

If this bill is pushed through, it means that the FCC can't regulate how the Internet is connected on a city-wide level. Any regulations favored by the FCC to Prevent Cable Company Fuckery would essentially become moot under this bill.

The municipality might not be the best agency to run the Internet in that area, but it's simply an issue of choice - something people in the USA don't have a lot of when it comes to how we connect to the Internet.

[Anarchy]

I mean, I guess you could say government ability to create their own ISP has the potential to create more choices, but it's really a non-factor. In the end, if a municipal ISP were created, it would either create a profit and be sold off (to Comcast, etc.) or run at a loss and simply charge us via municipal treasury (tax, ie USPS) rather than a straight bill. Government agencies have a tendency to run fat, not lean, due to no profit motive. Which is great when thinking about something like the FTC, USDA, but not so great in functions that are meant to survive on cash flow.


6 months ago the argument was that the government was snooping too much on the internet, now it's that we should give them more allowance to create their own ISP.

[Maxdoggy]

I mean, I guess you could say government ability to create their own ISP has the potential to create more choices, but it's really a non-factor. In the end, if a municipal ISP were created, it would either create a profit and be sold off (to Comcast, etc.) or run at a loss and simply charge us via municipal treasury (tax, ie USPS) rather than a straight bill. Government agencies have a tendency to run fat, not lean, due to no profit motive. Which is great when thinking about something like the FTC, USDA, but not so great in functions that are meant to survive on cash flow.


6 months ago the argument was that the government was snooping too much on the internet, now it's that we should give them more allowance to create their own ISP.

Don't worry - the government is STILL snooping too much on the Internet. This bill (HR 5016) would prevent more options and competition from existing.

Case in point, Chattanooga, TN (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/09/17/how-chattanooga-beat-google-fiber-by-half-a-decade/) has had Google Fiber-like speeds for the past five years because the government used the lines owned by companies like Level 3 (Internet backbone providers) to provide better alternatives for Internet for their residents.

Governments have incentives to create competitive internet speeds, as the faster the connections are, the more businesses will move to an area to take advantage of it, and thus, more direct revenue and taxes coming in to the municipality.

This bill that's trying to be shoe-horned in would completely usurp the FCC's power to manage and regulate the Internet in such municipalities. Twenty states already have some form of agreement with the likes of Comcast and TimeWarner to prevent local governments from doing such things as what Chattanooga did.
Tom Wheeler, the FCC Chairman (who's a bag of dicks, generally speaking), supports the cause of the FCC having regulatory power in preventing cable companies from having so much control over governments for Internet.

All I, BoingBoing, and the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) are asking is that everyone gives their House representative a quick 30 second call to let them know that this kind of bill has NO place in our government today, or in the future.

THIS LINK (https://www.dearfcc.org/call) will take you to that place to call your representative, and it even provides a basic script to let your rep know that HR 5016 should NOT be passed.

Thanks.

[Silko]

Tea Party ftw! xD

Fucking tea party! Party of the military my ass!

[Anarchy]

Don't worry - the government is STILL snooping too much on the Internet. This bill (HR 5016) would prevent more options and competition from existing.

In many ways, it's doing the opposite. Not a lot of companies have access to a $111 Million stimulus grant.

I just don't buy the idea of being outraged that the people who can't run a profitable cash flow to save their life, and have access to resources even larger companies don't, aren't being allowed to use their power to leverage higher internet speeds. Even if they're running a profit for their side of things, and challenging TWC to compete more, they're going to have more resources at their disposal without the risk of going bankrupt. Artificially saturating the market is going to make it even harder for companies to form, grow, and stay alive, which is usually when Oligarchies begin to form for survival.

If a municipality wants to advance its internet, a more plausible solution is to offer some tax breaks to companies like Google FiOS and Verizon FiOS to come build, it's a temporary incentive to a temporary problem, plus its cost is less direct. The establishment of a municipal, government ISP can have its drawbacks, and those drawbacks will be a lot more long term with a huge initial nominal cost as well.

[Maxdoggy]

In many ways, it's doing the opposite. Not a lot of companies have access to a $111 Million stimulus grant.

I just don't buy the idea of being outraged that the people who can't run a profitable cash flow to save their life, and have access to resources even larger companies don't, aren't being allowed to use their power to leverage higher internet speeds. Even if they're running a profit for their side of things, and challenging TWC to compete more, they're going to have more resources at their disposal without the risk of going bankrupt. Artificially saturating the market is going to make it even harder for companies to form, grow, and stay alive, which is usually when Oligarchies begin to form for survival.

If a municipality wants to advance its internet, a more plausible solution is to offer some tax breaks to companies like Google FiOS and Verizon FiOS to come build, it's a temporary incentive to a temporary problem, plus its cost is less direct. The establishment of a municipal, government ISP can have its drawbacks, and those drawbacks will be a lot more long term with a huge initial nominal cost as well.

If you read the EFF's posting on this, it states that if this bill is passed, municipalities won't even have the option to get their cities "Google Fiber ready" as doing so and activating the "dark fiber" that may already be laid in the ground would go against the "non-compete clauses" that many governments have signed to allow for companies like Comcast to set up shop in said municipalities. CTRL+F for "Chatt" on THIS PAGE (https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/06/neutrality-begins-home-what-us-mayors-can-do-right-now-support-neutral-internet) to see where the EFF talks about this.

We can talk for days about what the benefits/detractions are, but from what we've seen so far with places like Chattanooga, TN, Springfield, MO, and soon San Francisco and Seattle, the only bad things stemming from this resurgence in localized fiber networks and ISPs is that some ground may be dug up to add new fiber - temporarily making people's front yards have a ditch for less than a week while fiber connections are being made.

Regardless, more harm will be done if this bill goes through than the somewhat good parts that HR 5016 is attached to. This pork-bellying things on to other bills that are sure to pass is absolutely enraging and our politicians need to hear that we won't stand for this BS.

Please everyone, even if the lines are closed, leave a message and let your representative know that they need to vote NO on HR 5016 (https://www.dearfcc.org/call).