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Spartanbh
12-10-2014, 04:12 PM
So let's have some good ol' FC debate fun (maturely and with no flaming please). The U.S. Senate on Tuesday released a 500+ page classified document called now the "Torture Report". This document can be seen here (WARNING: THERE IS SOME GRAPHIC DETAILS IN THIS REPORT). http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2014/12/politics/torture-report/

If you want a basic short version, you can look at some of these passages from the document:
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/12/09/politics/cia-reports-shocking-passages/index.html?sr=tw121014cia reports630aVODtopPhoto

So yeah. Pretty wild stuff eh? Necessary or no?

UNLUCKY NUM13ER
12-10-2014, 06:25 PM
I can honestly say I don't know how I feel about this.

One thing I am certain of is that I wish they hadn't released it. Let the CIA do their own thing. Now other countries (and terrorists) will only view us worse. And should anyone be taken hostage by terrorists they will surely do worse to Americans because of it.

Deathhawk
12-10-2014, 08:26 PM
I can honestly say I don't know how I feel about this.

One thing I am certain of is that I wish they hadn't released it. Let the CIA do their own thing. Now other countries (and terrorists) will only view us worse. And should anyone be taken hostage by terrorists they will surely do worse to Americans because of it.

I'm not sure how I feel about it either.
Other countries will probably view us worse, but just like privacy invasion, every country is probably already doing it too.

NervyDestroyer
12-11-2014, 07:44 PM
Why do people release this shit?

a) Extreme threat to the security of the nation
b) Creates an even bigger divide between citizen and government
c) Terrorists are now going to torture American POWs even worse than they already do
d) Makes a mockery out of the US to every other country
e) Better hope to God the fucking UN doesn't step in...

Leave it be. What was buried should stay buried, this should have stayed classified.

Legendary Nova
12-11-2014, 08:11 PM
I'm going to play Devil's advocate here a little bit:

Releasing the report was stupid. Now people know what the US top secret agency is doing, and it doesn't make them any better off. On the other hand, I think torture is a necessary evil, if you want to call it that. If there is sufficient reason, than of course you need to go to drastic measures. If you know where a threat to national security is, you are going to tell us, but after other techniques are tried first.

I'm sorry, but the harsh truth is that morals don't get you many places. Just keep it to yourself next time though.

bazongaman502
12-12-2014, 04:48 PM
I get why people are upset and I don't blame them at all for being upset.

But doing this did give us the opportunity to find the Most Wanted Man in the World and killed him.

I don't get why this stuff gets released to the public though. Are we intentionally trying to split this country apart and make it fall apart?