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Nocte
04-27-2011, 01:18 PM
Alright I wanna have a discussion over something I believe the media loves to blow out of the water.

That Video Games cause kids to be violent.

Lets look at Columbine shall we?

Those two kids, were said to be bullied. That they listened to Marilyn Manson, so they shot up the school because of music. So ya know everyone thinks that Marilyn Manson is this horrible person, when all he really is, is an older male version of Lady Gaga. He produces music that people of all ages like, but wanted to look and be different.

Well I got curious back when I was 8th grade and looked up Columbine to find that the FBI had found the journals of the two kids who did it. They WERE NOT bullied, hell they had the shooting planned. They were the BULLIES. Hmmm. So the media pointed fingers because god forbid it's the parent's fault. Which it was, it's proven that fucked up kids generally have fucked up home lives.

So Video Games, I will forever stand by the FACT that they don't make kids shoot other kids. Because music nor video games, words and a non-physical environment can not cause actual Psychological problems. Only real physical and real emotional problems can make that happen.

I listened to a Psychologist say how when we play Halo, we feel the need to go outside and shoot people with an Assault Rifle. I laughed and wanted to ask here how much the cereal box cost for her to get her degree.

Then we have another "Psychologist" saying that Mass Effect makes women seem like sex toys. Why because you take the entire game to even get to the "sex scene" in it? Then they had a gamer, come on and tell her she was wrong and she acted like she knew what she was talking about...... I wanted to slap her.... because Mass Effect is one of the best games in the world and she was acting like it was a porno.

So thoughts and such post em here.

Bodaciousbaconn
04-27-2011, 01:40 PM
First of all, One of my familys houses we own is within an hour of Columbine. The two kids were obviously the bullies, and something was majorly Jacked Up with their brains. My mother is currently working for a Child Abuse Prevention agency and she could have easily explained everything that was wrong with those kids and how they could have easily prevented it.

But thats a whole different subject I refuse to get into.


No way in hell that Video Games cause real life violence. Now if someone *cough* Shadow Asasian *Cough* has been submerged in Video Games such as Halo since he was young and still had his brain developing, I believe it could cause some changes in behavior. For example, you would look at me and my older brother and be like "Oh, they act the same, of course they're related." And then you would look at Shadow, who is my little brother, and be like "What the hell? They don't act at all alike, and the littlest is by far the most violent." I played the first Halo when I was 5 years old. My father was always with me though, and was able to tell me that this was all fake and nothing like this happened in real life. Now Shadow on the other hand, Was submitted to the violence of the games all throughout his childhood, with no-one always reminding him this is not what goes on in daily life. He will one day grow out of it I hope, but even now he worries me and my family.

LocoCrazy
04-27-2011, 01:57 PM
Video games dont cause violence. Retard who get "inspired" by video games violence do.

Notice the quotation marks beside inspired

XxClearSh0txX
04-27-2011, 02:39 PM
Video games may influence a persons' choices a little, just like anything in your local enviroment. So, depending on the child, they can influence a kid to go shoot the school up, but that is the child's choice, not the choice of the game. GAMES don't cause violence, PEOPLE do. And besides, Bacon's been shootin' covies since age 5. He's not a maniac bent on killing everything, is he? No, because he had good parents with him when he played.

"Video games cause violence" is another way to say "Parental supervision lacking".

Nocte
04-27-2011, 02:59 PM
Thats why I think you should go to a psych test before your able to own any type of firearm. Just to be sure.

Andimion
04-27-2011, 03:27 PM
I watched the exact video your talking about. I laughed until I cried. Load of horse shit. I would have loved to have had a conversation with that dumb cunt on stage. I would have made her look sooooooo bad.

Lets go over a few facts.

-Video games help a child/young adult escape reality and take control of another more epic and action packed life. So they can escape the reality that mommy and daddy are drugs abusers who beat them with in an inch of death while in a state of high.

Parents these days are terrible with their children. They neglect and fail to be in any way a parent and when it comes to owning up to their own mistakes. They push the finger. I am infinity % sure that in almost all the cases of these events, that child suffered neglect..

Hey, here is another perspective.

You let your children play these violent and terrible video games that you blame. Good game you pathetic failure of a human being. Good fucking game.

Bodaciousbaconn
04-27-2011, 03:37 PM
*sniff* Orange, that is the most intelligent thing I've ever heard you say on this matter. *sniff* i do love shootin' me some covies...

OzzyIzSick
04-27-2011, 03:39 PM
Games can, physiologically cause a change in behavior. Say for example a kid around the age of 3-4 began watching his bigger brother play games such as GTA. Children's brains develop rapidly they're thrown into a world of curiosity. Its the parents job to make sure this child is shown what is wrong and what is right. If this child continues to watch his brother play GTA he will observe the actions this character portrays, soon he will begin acting just like him.

It comes from the development of the brain. Its shown that the brain increases size and productivity at the age of 2-4 years.


Now if your 10-13..Different story.

Mi Boys Dinner
04-27-2011, 04:36 PM
I'm sorry, I'm pretty sure that violence has been around longer than video games.

ಠ_ಠ

LocoCrazy
04-27-2011, 05:07 PM
brb, I'm going to go play the Gears 3 beta and beat some poor soul senseless with their own limbs

...again.

Andimion
04-27-2011, 05:18 PM
I'm sorry, I'm pretty sure that violence has been around longer than video games.

ಠ_ಠ

Bad parenting predates technology... lol

Hazy
04-27-2011, 07:07 PM
Video games may influence a persons' choices a little, just like anything in your local enviroment. So, depending on the child, they can influence a kid to go shoot the school up, but that is the child's choice, not the choice of the game. GAMES don't cause violence, PEOPLE do. And besides, Bacon's been shootin' covies since age 5. He's not a maniac bent on killing everything, is he? No, because he had good parents with him when he played.

"Video games cause violence" is another way to say "Parental supervision lacking".


Perfect example is a friend of mine with a little brother.

Okay...to make a long story short the parents spoil the little one, like a lot. And my friend and his sister are treated as if they're about to move out (they're about my age). Now recently my friend's had a gaming cap put on him each day, for like two hours a day and whatever he wants on the weekends.

His brother? Oh there's no limit. Just plays as much as he damn well pleases to. Now this child, playing halo since he's been born essentially, now relates EVERYTHING in his life to halo. Like seriously, to teach math his brother had to give him a lesson using plasma grenades so he could get it. It's a problem.

Now did the game influence the little brother? Hell yes.

Did the game influence the older brother? Hell no.

Did the parents say anything to help the little brother better understand video games and WHY they were made? No

Did they do that to the older one? No, but thank god we both ended up getting xbox's after we developed common sense.


You need to be there for your kids, and I think that's probably going to be one of the bigger challenges when we all eventually become gamer parents. It's not really a game of forbidding the kid from playing GTA IV at age 5, and asking no more questions about what's in it and why he shoulden't be even looking at the damn label. But you have to also explain either WHY he can't play it or WHY he shoulden't emulate what he sees, and that it's all based on fake science. So long as they understand that I see no way how all the blame has to be put on the games.

Mi Boys Dinner
04-27-2011, 07:15 PM
Bad parenting predates technology... lol

This. This fucker right here knows the truth.

(when I say fucker in this sense, it's means a good thing. don't hurt me)

Hazy
04-27-2011, 11:06 PM
He probably will.....what are you doing start running bro!

Kuhblam
04-29-2011, 06:10 PM
So I play violent videogames, yeah? Kill a few people or there, stab a baby or light an apartment on fire... girls just want to have fun, amirite?

Lol.

On a serious note, agree with Dinner and Rob. Its parenting, or absence there of, that leads to violence.

~Kuhblam

MedeDust
04-30-2011, 01:33 AM
Do they get their violence from games or do the games get their violence from them? Do self esteem counselors have a client of the month?

Hazy
05-01-2011, 02:35 AM
Do they get their violence from games or do the games get their violence from them? Do self esteem counselors have a client of the month?

Mede actually does have a point. The violence in games can't exist unless people see and know it exists in the real world.

Like....could they know how to re-create violence if they've never seen it in real life?