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bazongaman502
08-11-2012, 05:40 AM
Hello, just a heads up this subject is rather touchy for people and people have strong opinions. Please respect everyone's imput. They have a right to their own opinion. You can dissagree with it, however, be respectful about it


Legalize It!

This year is a rather big jump for the legalization of Marijuana. Back in 2010, California tried to get a bill passed to allow recreational use for Marijuana. Due to a a previous poll, it showed Marijuana had over 50% support for it. However, when the actual voting occured, the bill fell short and lost. Multiple states at the time were still trying to get the amount of signatures required.

This year, 2 states will have a bill up for vote to legalize the recreational use of Marijuana. Those states include Washington State and Colorado.

These states will hold certin restrictions, such as:

- legalize the production, distribution, and retail sale of marijuana
- prohibit sales to anyone under age 21
- designate the Colorado State Department of Revenue as the agency responsible for regulating marijuana commerce
- designate the Washington State Liquor Control Board as the regulatory agency

However, the "prohibit sales to anyone under age 21" can be easily broken, just like teenagers under the age of 21 getting beer.

Washington State will hold a 20-25% tax on the Marijuana purchace. To which, ill leave some examples of normal costs of weed and how much it costs with the tax:

Dime (1 gram, usually from 0.7-1.0) sells of $10 on the street. Tax will very from $12-$12.50
Dub (2 gram, usually from 1.7-2.0) sells $20 on the street. Tax will very from $24-$25
Thirty-sac (3 gram, usually from 2.7-3.0) sells for $30 on the street. Tax will very from $36-$37.5

As you can see, the tax can get you nearly half way to the next level of amount.

People consider Marijuana as a "Gateway Drug". I dissagree and only think its a "Gateway to the fridge". People also say its "addictive", that is false and has been proven.

Drunk driving deaths are average to 1 person is killed every 30 minutes. Averaging, 16,000 deaths a year.

Tabacco deaths a year on average? 435,000.

Marijuana averages? Zero.

Yet Alcohol and Tabacco are legal.

Why is Marijuana illegal?


There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos, and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz, and swing, result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and any others.”

“…the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races.”

“Marijuana is an addictive drug which produces in its users insanity, criminality, and death.”

“Reefer makes darkies think they’re as good as white men.”

“Marihuana leads to pacifism and communist brainwashing”

“You smoke a joint and you’re likely to kill your brother.”

“Marijuana is the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind.” ~ Harry J. Anslinger

That isn't the full reason, but was a key factor. Ever since then, America has thought of Marijuana as a drug from "Satan". Religon was never involved in the case of making Marijuana illegal, as a matter of fact, Shinto and Judeo-Christian support the use of Marijuana.

According to research, over 60% of Americans smoke weed. Over 70% smoke pot in some point of their life.

What if Marijuana gets legal in my State, is it technically still illegal?

Yes. According to federal law, Marijuana is still illegal and will remain illegal untill over 50% of the states legalize it. But, even then it can still be illegal. The DEA (Drug Enforcemnt Agency) will patrol alot more in the states that have it legal. The DEA follows Federal Law.

Doesn't an Ammendment allow seperate State Laws?

Yes. However, Federal Law is powerful enough to go against a State Law. A DEA Officer has the right to arrest you for things that the Federal Government proclaim Illegal.

Personal story:


In High School, i used to smoke pot and go to class. It was easily noticed that i was high. But i had cool teachers that they didn't care. I actually remember one time that i had to take a suprise Math Test on a subject i really sucked at, Algebra. I never studied (still dont) and hardly listend in class. I actually got a 80% on that test. I was really shocked. Back then though, i smoked pot just to smoke it. Now hoever, i do it responsibly. I only do it when i have nothing to do and know i will have nothing to do for the rest of the day.

This is not a post that is trying to persuade you to smoke pot. This post is to get the information out to those that dont know much about it.

If you want more info about the subject, please watch This Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnFJYxCx7zk)

And ill leave you with this joke/funny quote.


People say pot smokers are not multi-taskers. I tend to dissagree. I'm a multi-tasking pot smoker. Let me give an example. The other day I was walking down the street, thats one. I was stoned, thats two. Alright i'll that one back. I was walking down the street, I was putting eye drops in my eyes, I was talking on my cell phone and I was getting hit by a car. ~ Doug Benson (Super High Me)

If this post gets out of hand, please contact me so I can notify a admin to close the thread. I want to know this thread is locked or being locked ahead of time.

UNLUCKY NUM13ER
08-11-2012, 05:55 AM
I disagree that it's addictive, it may not be on the same level as Meth or other high level drugs. But either way I see very little issues with it becoming legal. In fact I see it more of a Pro than a Con even if I do not partake myself.

I say legalize it, even if I never buy any. It just should be taxed & regulated heavily.

GhostHammer
08-11-2012, 06:38 AM
I disagree that it's addictive, it may not be on the same level as Meth or other high level drugs. But either way I see very little issues with it becoming legal. In fact I see it more of a Pro than a Con even if I do not partake myself.

I say legalize it, even if I never buy any. It just should be taxed & regulated heavily.

What Forest said. I'm not a smoker, but I have friends who are and have seen no negative effects so far. Legalize it, tax it, sell it like cigarettes, and let the ents toke up.

Acid
08-11-2012, 01:28 PM
What Forest said. I'm not a smoker, but I have friends who are and have seen no negative effects so far

Except for they tend to smell like pot which is really annoying. If you're going to smoke it, for the love of god please change clothes and shower when you're done, no one wants to smell that shit on you. (I'm not saying all do this.)

Sicarioano
08-11-2012, 01:45 PM
Good luck getting a job if you smoke it regularly, cause remember you still have to take a drug test and that shit don't leave your system until a month later.

Gargoyle
08-11-2012, 01:50 PM
Weed is just like cigs and alcohol. Hell, Cigs do more harm for you than weed does.

Regulate it, legalize it.

EDIT: If it becomes legalized, companies in the states would have to re-do their drug policies.

Fateless Wolf
08-11-2012, 02:02 PM
hell its better for you than cigs so yea legalize it. But got damn thatll be expensive ,even thoe its not comeing to my state haha.

silversleek
08-11-2012, 02:32 PM
holy crap. dat tax. 25%? seriously?

well, even though it will be legal, looks like dealers will still be relevant.

bazongaman502
08-11-2012, 02:54 PM
Good luck getting a job if you smoke it regularly, cause remember you still have to take a drug test and that shit don't leave your system until a month later.

Actually, it leaves your body differently from person to person. It depends on your matabolism (i think thats the right spelling for it). One of my bodies smoked weed and the next day had to do a drug test and passed. But yes, it can take up to a month for it to go away.

Also, where i work our GM has already did a speech about it on the possiblity of it being legal and said that "tests will only be issued if they hold reason to believe you are doing to offten. They said they will subject you to do it multiple times in a given time and see how much you have done it. If they see you are doing it so often, then your job or employment possibilites will be questioned.


holy crap. dat tax. 25%? seriously?

well, even though it will be legal, looks like dealers will still be relevant.

I still think dealers will be out and about selling. Its more like "wait and get it cheaper or get it now for an extra price" kind of deal.

DarkS1de Reborn
08-11-2012, 07:52 PM
I can't wait for this shit to happen. I mean good lord if this is ever legalized, it will boost the damn economy from all the stoners no longer wasting their money on backyard dealers and doing it legally and in doing so paying a little extra because of the taxes but since it will be legal and they don't have to worry about it well there you go. The only down side is they will more than likely start doing shit to it just like cigs to make it addictive and what not.

Weed by itself is NOT addictive, there are no addictive properties in it what so ever, however people can get addicted. People with addictive personalities can still get addicted to it even if there are no properties in it that cause that sort of affect. As well to the fact that almost everything people think about marijuana is completely wrong as all hell and just plain stupid.

Take it from someone who has studied, smoked, and done many different things with weed. I have studied a lot around the use and affects of marijuana, and hell people who thinks it kills brain cells and makes you stupid, YOU'RE STUPID lolz because that is one of the worst statements and ideas ever because it isn't true either.

If it is legalized, places will have to change their drug policies because if it is legal in the state it will no longer be a "drug" and chances are you can't really abuse the use of marijuana so for them to have a policy on that will be rather retarded. It's no difference than smoking, yeah you can over do it but it needs to be treated like alcohol since it does alter your mind and some things a small bit while it is in your system, then you should not be allowed to smoke it while on the job or if smoked before the job same crap should be done as if you were drinking on or before the job.

I personally can't wait till it becomes legal in most states and become legal all around. It will never do that much harm, it doesn't kill people the way drunk drivers do or the way smoking does to a person, although I will say that your heart rate increases quite a damn bit while smoking it, it really does no damage to your body and what not. So can't wait! LOLZ

H2O Yordle
08-11-2012, 08:44 PM
I disagree that it's addictive, it may not be on the same level as Meth or other high level drugs. But either way I see very little issues with it becoming legal. In fact I see it more of a Pro than a Con even if I do not partake myself.

I say legalize it, even if I never buy any. It just should be taxed & regulated heavily.

Except you cant regulate shit.

UNLUCKY NUM13ER
08-11-2012, 10:11 PM
Except you cant regulate shit.

Then we don't legalize it.

Coda
08-11-2012, 11:50 PM
If it can be regulated properly, then legalize it. There has to be control though. If it can't be controlled, then it shouldn't be legal. I don't smoke it. I don't smoke at all. And I don't plan on it. The smell gives be a horrible headache. Instantly. It sucks. I'm pretty against drugs. And I feel quite strongly against smoking it. However, I know that it does less harm than alcohol and cigarettes. If anything, those two should be illegal and weed legal. Makes more sense. I don't drink, smoke, or do any drugs.

If marijuana use can be regulated, and done responsibly, then why not? However that stuff can mess with your head if you do enough of it. I know people who smoked it very very heavily. So, to any pot smokers out there, do what you want. But be careful out there. I dont want to hear about my FC brethren going nuts or having medical issues, or dying or whatever.

xXReiBearXx
08-11-2012, 11:51 PM
The only reason weed isn't illegal is because people will still rather buy it off the streets tax free. A gram out here cost $10. Add tax to that and you're looking at $15-$20.

Weed s the safest drug out here because it comes from the earth. You would have to smoke the equivalent to your body weight in a day to actually overdose. Even people who smoke all day everyday would pass out before they got close.

Out here where I live it isn't as "illegal" as it was and still is in other places. Now, instead of getting arrested for having/smoking it you have to pay a fined if you are caught with under an ounce. When I live the cops wont even bother giving tickets for that because it's just more paper work for them. They usually just let you go or take your weed and be on their way.

Eventually it will be legal...slowly but surely.

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If it can be regulated properly, then legalize it. There has to be control though. If it can't be controlled, then it shouldn't be legal. I don't smoke it. I don't smoke at all. And I don't plan on it. The smell gives be a horrible headache. Instantly. It sucks. I'm pretty against drugs. And I feel quite strongly against smoking it. However, I know that it does less harm than alcohol and cigarettes. If anything, those two should be illegal and weed legal. Makes more sense. I don't drink, smoke, or do any drugs.

If marijuana use can be regulated, and done responsibly, then why not? However that stuff can mess with your head if you do enough of it. I know people who smoked it very very heavily. So, to any pot smokers out there, do what you want. But be careful out there. I dont want to hear about my FC brethren going nuts or having medical issues, or dying or whatever.

Weed actually is used for medical purposes. Also it is near impossible to die cause of weed unless you are operating a vehicle or dangerous equipment while under the influence.

If you are gonna smoke weed people smoke it responsibly. Just like alcohol!

ItsGettingMessi
08-11-2012, 11:54 PM
i myself say no completly. of cource i beielive tobbaco should be illegal also... but thats just me

xXReiBearXx
08-12-2012, 12:25 AM
i myself say no completly. of cource i beielive tobbaco should be illegal also... but thats just me

Considering Tobacco has caused cancer(FACT) which kills people I agree with that. Weed doesn't kill people it actually can help people. (FACT)

ItsGettingMessi
08-12-2012, 12:38 AM
as i said i dont like either. and only some of it can help you... and only in certain doses, just like anything. to much is bad

bazongaman502
08-12-2012, 01:33 AM
Considering Tobacco has caused cancer(FACT) which kills people I agree with that. Weed doesn't kill people it actually can help people. (FACT)

you are right and Messi has fair points and i can agree with it (doesn't change my opinion, but i understand why it was said).

There is no such thing as "Medical Marijuana". Marijuana is Marijuana no matter how you look at it. How it is used for medical is to relax your nervs and trigger your imune system (i know thats spelt wrong >.< lol). They try to use that as an advantage to help people that struggle eating and pain release. There is nothing "Medical" about it, only that it is being used in the Medical Feild of work.

And i agree Bear. If it comes legal, people have to be responsible about it. Not just smoke it to smoke it. Do it only when you know they are not going to do anything that can bring harm to you. That includes driving. Yet iv been in a car with a friend of mine who was high as fuck and he drove perfectly, it can still cause issues.

:)

Mr Funktastiiic
08-12-2012, 10:20 AM
Legalize weed, it courses no problems but i know a lot of olders that are fucked in the head but they did other drugs aswell... however when i used to smoke pot it made me really paranoid so i stopped it depends on the person somtimes all i know is if i can smoke a joint outside the pub im sound as a pound.

EriRi 1138
08-12-2012, 11:29 AM
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Carpe Vexillum
08-12-2012, 12:33 PM
There is no such thing as "Medical Marijuana". Marijuana is Marijuana no matter how you look at it. How it is used for medical is to relax your nervs and trigger your imune system (i know thats spelt wrong >.< lol). They try to use that as an advantage to help people that struggle eating and pain release. There is nothing "Medical" about it, only that it is being used in the Medical Feild of work.


Just to help you understand. By this logic Aspirin, hormone treatment, vaccinations, and antibiotics have nothing medical about them other than they are used in that field of work. As well as other 'medical drugs and treatments'.

Just because its not packed with medication and foreign substances doesn't mean its not 'medical'. If it benefits a certain symptom of stress, chronic nerve disorder, cancer, and other things. Its medical - because it assists in relieving a symptom &/or side effect.

=p

Coda
08-12-2012, 01:12 PM
This is actually a pretty good thread. Everyone's being respectful and talking about something that has meaning. I'm really happy to see that.

I'm against smoking marijuana, but I know it can help. Legalizing it could be both good and bad. And I can't predict the future. So I don't know how it would work or what will happen. Only time will tell

AftershocK
08-12-2012, 02:19 PM
Fuck buying it at the store with a tax. Ima grow my own shit! (if it gets legalized) haha

Deathhawk
08-12-2012, 02:39 PM
I'm pro-legalization (decriminalization, really)

I would like to say that recreational weed CAN have negative side affects.
As an on-off smoker myself it has given me bouts of depression from quitting, some laziness, as well as slightly hampered my lung capacity.

Nothing major, but saying that it is 100% completely harm free isn't being fair. There ARE (small) negative side affects. In moderation they can be avoided.
Driving while high is still extremely unsafe.

bazongaman502
08-12-2012, 02:44 PM
Fuck buying it at the store with a tax. Ima grow my own shit! (if it gets legalized) haha

Sadly, that will still be against the law. You must have a permit (which will be extreamly hard to get) in order to grow without breaking the law. If it can be taxed all the time, fine you could get away with it, but if it cant, it will still be illegal for that.

Otherwise id do it to :P

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I'm pro-legalization (decriminalization, really)

I would like to say that recreational weed CAN have negative side affects.
As an on-off smoker myself it has given me bouts of depression from quitting, some laziness, as well as slightly hampered my lung capacity.

Nothing major, but saying that it is 100% completely harm free isn't being fair. There ARE (small) negative side affects. In moderation they can be avoided.
Driving while high is still extremely unsafe.

Yes. There ARE side affects like you said. However those side affects have been found to go away after a certin amount of time.

Operating Machines or anything along those lines will be bad if the operator is high or intoxicated. Due to them being paranoid, they will think they are being safer. While they truelly aren't. I was lucky to be with a friend that was really good at driving normally and while high. But not everyone is like that and i DO NOT recomend ever trying to find out.

Thank you for your imput :)

Deathhawk
08-12-2012, 02:45 PM
Sadly, that will still be against the law. You must have a permit (which will be extreamly hard to get) in order to grow without breaking the law. If it can be taxed all the time, fine you could get away with it, but if it cant, it will still be illegal for that.

Otherwise id do it to :P
Seeds will be super easy to buy, it'll be illegal but smoking at all is illegal now lol

I would definitely grow. Maybe there will be a small amount that you'd be allowed to grow, just like medical marijuana.

bazongaman502
08-12-2012, 02:51 PM
Seeds will be super easy to buy, it'll be illegal but smoking at all is illegal now lol

I would definitely grow. Maybe there will be a small amount that you'd be allowed to grow, just like medical marijuana.

Maybe that will pass later down the reoab on another bill. But the current bill for both Washington and Colorado state that recreational growing of Marijuana will remain illegal, unless it can be taxed regularly. :/

xXReiBearXx
08-12-2012, 09:47 PM
Side effects of smoking weed varies. Some people have those similar symptoms as Deathhawk has experienced and others have had other experiences. I use to be a smoker and very rarely do I smoke now. When I do smoke the only thing that happens is I get tired and go to sleep.

And there is such thing as Medical Marijuana. Marijuana is used as a pain killer for the most part. It's actually a very good one at that. it also helps people who have bad vision.

A little story:

My aunt was diagnosed with breast caner. She had to take at least 40 pills a day to help her with the pain she suffered everyday from the treatments and surgery she endured. The pills didn't help her, she was still in pain. So one day a friend asked her if she wanted to smoke weed to maybe help ease her pain. She did and she felt so much better. When she went to her doctors he asked her if she smoked marijuana. She said "Honestly doctor I did smoke weed this one time." The doctor literally said, "Good, because if you didn't already I was going to suggest that you should."

40 pills a day and my aunt was STILL in pain. And these were not just low gram pills. She had the highest Oxycontin prescription that they can give you and it was the weed that made her feel better. If I didn't witness it with my own eyes I would prolly have been against legalizing marijuana. But it can do some good.

AftershocK
08-12-2012, 10:20 PM
Legalize it!

bazongaman502
08-12-2012, 10:24 PM
Side effects of smoking weed varies. Some people have those similar symptoms as Deathhawk has experienced and others have had other experiences. I use to be a smoker and very rarely do I smoke now. When I do smoke the only thing that happens is I get tired and go to sleep.

And there is such thing as Medical Marijuana. Marijuana is used as a pain killer for the most part. It's actually a very good one at that. it also helps people who have bad vision.

A little story:

My aunt was diagnosed with breast caner. She had to take at least 40 pills a day to help her with the pain she suffered everyday from the treatments and surgery she endured. The pills didn't help her, she was still in pain. So one day a friend asked her if she wanted to smoke weed to maybe help ease her pain. She did and she felt so much better. When she went to her doctors he asked her if she smoked marijuana. She said "Honestly doctor I did smoke weed this one time." The doctor literally said, "Good, because if you didn't already I was going to suggest that you should."

40 pills a day and my aunt was STILL in pain. And these were not just low gram pills. She had the highest Oxycontin prescription that they can give you and it was the weed that made her feel better. If I didn't witness it with my own eyes I would prolly have been against legalizing marijuana. But it can do some good.

wow, that was actually touching. Thanks for sharing that.

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Legalize it!

2 times you have posted... both basically mean the samething lol

ItsGettingMessi
08-12-2012, 10:29 PM
i would be fine with it if it would be legalized only to be used medically... sadly it doesnt work that way

Puba
08-12-2012, 10:32 PM
i would be fine with it if it would be legalized only to be used medically... sadly it doesnt work that waythis.

bazongaman502
08-12-2012, 10:37 PM
i would be fine with it if it would be legalized only to be used medically... sadly it doesnt work that way

Some states do have it that way... however you can still get arrested even with the green card that is given to you. <-- thats one of the reasons why states are now pushing for it to just be leaglized overal

ItsGettingMessi
08-12-2012, 10:40 PM
Some states do have it that way... however you can still get arrested even with the green card that is given to you. <-- thats one of the reasons why states are now pushing for it to just be leaglized overal

i know some states have it. but i mean ONLY medical, it would only happen in a perfect world though.

bazongaman502
08-12-2012, 10:43 PM
i know some states have it. but i mean ONLY medical, it would only happen in a perfect world though.

If you couldnt go to jail for it or get fined for it, then sure... but if that were to happen, people without a perscription would still get ahold of it... making it basically as it might as well just be legalized... I get what you are saying, and thank you for your imput :)

Puba
08-12-2012, 10:48 PM
as i don't smoke , i don't care if it is legalized. as long as i don't go to school with the whole school high.

bazongaman502
08-12-2012, 10:51 PM
as i don't smoke , i don't care if it is legalized. as long as i don't go to school with the whole school high.

no promises on that lol

Fateless Wolf
08-12-2012, 11:35 PM
aw hell if it becomes legal here looks like itll be a while for me to be able to smoke it then ;) but hell depends if at all my states one of those hardass states that dont like the weed topic a whole lot hahaa. but otherwise awesome topic its getting lots of replys haha. and hell if only we could use these replys to convince the goverment state wide to legalize it!!

AftershocK
08-12-2012, 11:52 PM
2 times you have posted... both basically mean the samething lol

The effects of Marijuana ;) lol

bazongaman502
08-13-2012, 12:10 AM
The effects of Marijuana ;) lol


amen brotha amen haha

GAMEHEEL
08-13-2012, 02:36 AM
Um..... Weed? Legal? *cough* *fuck yes**cough*
I mean its not like 70% of our marijuana users are illegal right?
And marijuana isn't the BIGGEST CASH CROP IN AMERICA(Legal Or Not)

Rokkman X
08-13-2012, 07:38 PM
The smell makes me rage to the point of near insanity. I am not legally responsible for what happens to people who smoke marijuana near me.

DarkS1de Reborn
08-13-2012, 08:11 PM
I'm pro-legalization (decriminalization, really)

I would like to say that recreational weed CAN have negative side affects.
As an on-off smoker myself it has given me bouts of depression from quitting, some laziness, as well as slightly hampered my lung capacity.

Nothing major, but saying that it is 100% completely harm free isn't being fair. There ARE (small) negative side affects. In moderation they can be avoided.
Driving while high is still extremely unsafe.


Anything once you get off of it that gives you a high of any kinda can have a downside of depression, that's just how most things work, laziness pft don't lie you just didn't wanna do crap because you rather play halo, and lung capacity well yeah anything that has to be smoked will still affect you lungs in some way but it's nowhere near as bad as any other kind of smoke.

As for driving while high... Hey I've had good times with that shit!! Never got in a wreck and kinda makes you focus more, although I will say me and bud went out after smoking and he drove down a one way 4 lane road not paying attention to signs XD

Juggernaut9473
08-14-2012, 12:41 PM
im for the legalization of it only because it would add millions to our economy giving us a big boost. i dont smoke it and i dont care if others do, let the people do what they want, if they dont want to smoke it then they dont have to, if they do...let them

bazongaman502
08-14-2012, 01:23 PM
im for the legalization of it only because it would add millions to our economy giving us a big boost. i dont smoke it and i dont care if others do, let the people do what they want, if they dont want to smoke it then they dont have to, if they do...let them

agreed... thanks for your imput

SuRroundeD By 1
08-14-2012, 06:50 PM
I could care less if weed is legalized to be honest, I don't do it, but idgaf if other people do . . .

The only thing bad that I could say about it is more often than not (at least where I live) weed is a gateway drug. People smoke pot, then they think, "oh, how harmful could crack or meth be?" Then the real shit starts.

But maybe that's just the people around here, for all I care, let the people smoke, tax it . . . we need something to boost our economy.

Juggernaut9473
08-14-2012, 06:54 PM
I could care less if weed is legalized to be honest, I don't do it, but idgaf if other people do . . .

The only thing bad that I could say about it is more often than not (at least where I live) weed is a gateway drug. People smoke pot, then they think, "oh, how harmful could crack or meth be?" Then the real shit starts.

But maybe that's just the people around here, for all I care, let the people smoke, tax it . . . we need something to boost our economy.

all i have to say to that is look at Amsterdam where it is legal

xXReiBearXx
08-14-2012, 06:58 PM
I could care less if weed is legalized to be honest, I don't do it, but idgaf if other people do . . .

The only thing bad that I could say about it is more often than not (at least where I live) weed is a gateway drug. People smoke pot, then they think, "oh, how harmful could crack or meth be?" Then the real shit starts.

But maybe that's just the people around here, for all I care, let the people smoke, tax it . . . we need something to boost our economy.

I hate it when people say weed is a gateway drug. The only reason people say that is because in most cases people who smoke weed so regularly build a tolerance for it until they can no longer get high from it so they move on to stronger drugs. Everyone is well aware of the risks of other drugs so that's why more people smoke weed than the other stuff.

SuRroundeD By 1
08-14-2012, 07:08 PM
I hate it when people say weed is a gateway drug. The only reason people say that is because in most cases people who smoke weed so regularly build a tolerance for it until they can no longer get high from it so they move on to stronger drugs. Everyone is well aware of the risks of other drugs so that's why more people smoke weed than the other stuff.

I'm just saying what I've noticed around my area . . .

AftershocK
08-14-2012, 08:17 PM
it varies on the person you just gotta have more self-control to stay away from crack,meth,cocaine, etc...

Juggernaut9473
08-14-2012, 08:21 PM
if anyone knows what they are talking about, its aftershock

bazongaman502
08-15-2012, 02:47 PM
WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

2587

skinnyfingerss
08-17-2012, 01:28 PM
Funny how the NON smokers have more to say on the subject then use stoners lol marijuana is not ADDICTIVE, it's HABIT FORMING!!!!!!!! 2 different things!!!!!!! Drugs like pcp, crack, meth, cocaine, MDMA, painpills and even alcohol (alcohol is a drug), if you try to quite once addicted, you get headaches, stomach pains(vomiting), dizziness, etc. even death in rare cases so the person has to keep using to not feel these withdraws. But herb smokers smoke cause we love the plant and the feelin it gives us!!! if we are not able to get the plant for whatever reason, we just dont have weed that night.....we dont get sick and throw up or anything like that! so addictive NO, habit forming YES. As for smellin like weed....thats a matter of opinion....I happen to think people who smell like weed smell great

Sicarioano
08-17-2012, 01:34 PM
Gateway drug, your arguement is invalid.

bazongaman502
08-17-2012, 03:16 PM
Funny how the NON smokers have more to say on the subject then use stoners lol marijuana is not ADDICTIVE, it's HABIT FORMING!!!!!!!! 2 different things!!!!!!! Drugs like pcp, crack, meth, cocaine, MDMA, painpills and even alcohol (alcohol is a drug), if you try to quite once addicted, you get headaches, stomach pains(vomiting), dizziness, etc. even death in rare cases so the person has to keep using to not feel these withdraws. But herb smokers smoke cause we love the plant and the feelin it gives us!!! if we are not able to get the plant for whatever reason, we just dont have weed that night.....we dont get sick and throw up or anything like that! so addictive NO, habit forming YES. As for smellin like weed....thats a matter of opinion....I happen to think people who smell like weed smell great

agreed


Gateway drug, your arguement is invalid.

False, but what makes you think that?

Coda
08-17-2012, 03:22 PM
False, but what makes you think that?
It CAN be a gateway drug. It isn't always. But it CAN be. However, plenty of things can be a gateway. Not just marijuana.

Gargoyle
08-17-2012, 03:26 PM
It CAN be a gateway drug. It isn't always. But it CAN be. However, plenty of things can be a gateway. Not just marijuana.

I don't necessarily believe that. I think people just view mary j as a drug, so if people do anything more hardcore, they just say "well they're both drugs. They must have built on each other." You don't get gatewayed into drugs from marijuana. To me, people deal with drugs to deal with their problems in life. When's the last time you saw a rich, successful, happy man on meth?

Fuzzy
08-17-2012, 03:36 PM
When's the last time you saw a rich, successful, happy man on meth?

Breaking Bad?

Rokkman X
08-17-2012, 03:48 PM
Charlie Sheen

People have gone through serious mind fuckingly debilitating horrible shit, and have dealt with it fine. People who use the excuse "I take drugs to help me cope." disgust me.

bazongaman502
08-17-2012, 03:58 PM
It CAN be a gateway drug. It isn't always. But it CAN be. However, plenty of things can be a gateway. Not just marijuana.


It CAN be. Like you said.

But it verys on people. Only reason why people say its a gateway drug is because some people that have smoked weed have wanted to experience a "bigger high". Its also due to peoples stories. They create a awesome story and then suddenly you want to go through that as well. Sadly, THAT drug can be addictive. Marijuana is not blamed for it, however it is mentioned the be the first step for most addicts.

It has been proven to be not addictive... Check out Doug Benson, he quit smoking for 30 days..... but then smoked 30 days streight right after that.... probaby a bad example lol

Gargoyle
08-17-2012, 04:00 PM
Nah, everyone. EVERYONE. has some way of coping with something that has happened to them. Drugs are just the worse way to cope. Coping can be something even as simple as lookin at whatever happened to be a better person or anything like that. Breakin bad is a tv show, and Charlie sheen went through divorces, work problems, kids taken away. All things that would lead to drug abuse.

bazongaman502
08-17-2012, 04:03 PM
Nah, everyone. EVERYONE. has some way of coping with something that has happened to them. Drugs are just the worse way to cope. Coping can be something even as simple as lookin at whatever happened to be a better person or anything like that. Breakin bad is a tv show, and Charlie sheen went through divorces, work problems, kids taken away. All things that would lead to drug abuse.


well... he is also Charlie Sheen lol

bazongaman502
08-20-2012, 01:34 AM
Just talked to 3 smoke stores near me and they told me they will be either buying a card to sell Marijuana in their current store or buy another store that is only for Marijuana like how most places will be doing

StuntedJet
08-20-2012, 07:24 PM
I don't smoke myself, but I honestly don't care if it gets legalized, go ahead and smoke it or not. It should be a personal choice, not something controlled by the government/ taxed like hell. That's just my opinion though.

The Conch
08-20-2012, 07:57 PM
I don't partake in smoking weed but if it is legalized our prisons wouldn't be so overcrowded. Sure it wouldn't solve the problem, but it would help a lot. The fact that it is a no victim crime and not harmful to the body supports my case.

bazongaman502
08-20-2012, 08:04 PM
I don't partake in smoking weed but if it is legalized our prisons wouldn't be so overcrowded. Sure it wouldn't solve the problem, but it would help a lot. The fact that it is a no victim crime and not harmful to the body supports my case.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-IUE0idp7k

lolz

Nicholas Sapien
08-21-2012, 07:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-IUE0idp7k

lolz

lol your funny :p

Harry
08-21-2012, 07:54 PM
Long hair, don't care. But if it does get legalized I'll probably find myself somewhere down the road trying it. OR MAYBE EVEN GETTING HOOKED

ON PHONICS!
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Al Capone111
08-28-2012, 02:50 PM
As someone who has smoked it before, I can say i don't see the appeal of it. Not saying I hate it or are against it, it just isnt for me. And i really don't care if it is ever made legal. I've seen people who have smoked and gotten behind the wheel and crashed and others who drove just fine. If someone does smoke, i won;t be getting in the car with them if they drive, no different than if someone drinks.

I'm not against making weed legal, I just don't care either way. I however am against people smoking and then going into work, smelling of weed. If it is legalized than it should be treated no different than alcohol.