Overhaul Ordnance

[bl4yze]

As it stands right now, the Ordnance that are in the settings aren't ideal for good gameplay. They shouldn't require you to sacrifice a Support Mod to re-roll your Pulse Grenades, Concussion Rifle and Gravity Hammer choice.

The ordnance as they stand currently are as follows:

Left Slot	Middle Slot	Right Slot
Shotgun Energy Sword Gravity Hammer Scattershot	SAW Sticky Detonator Railgun Needler Concussion Rifle	Speed Boost Damage Boost Overshield Frag Grenades Plasma Grenades Pulse Grenades

What I propose is a modification of these to remove overpowered weapons that are currently on a majority of maps as initial ordnance, and giving grenades their own slot. It doesn't make sense to have Grenades (which are a spawn item) and Speed/Damage Boost and Overshield in the same slot. This is what I propose:

Left Slot	Middle Slot	Right Slot
Sticky Detonator SAW Scattershot Frag Grenades Plasma Grenades Pulse Grenades	Needler Concussion Rifle Energy Sword Gravity Hammer	Speed Boost Damage Boost Battle Rifle DMR Light Rifle

A large number of maps that we play already have a shotgun, overshield and railgun as initial ordnance. It adds a random factor to the game when you add those weapons to ordnance, and gives absolutely no reward to players that are aware to what weapons are on the map, which power weapons their team controls, and which power weapons the enemy controls.

The Sticky Det, SAW and Scattershot are absolutely dominant weapons and should be watered down in probability with grenades.

The Middle Slot is dedicated to Short range weapons, and the Right has Speed Boost or Damage Boost as both are very useful in their own situation, along with a BR and DMR, both to lessen the probability of getting a Boost and to be used for ammo if necessary.

Along with this change, the amount of points required for Ordnance should be increased by 200%. Receiving an Ordnance from a flag capture that may potentially have a Speed Boost right after you just used a Speed Boost to capture said flag is ridiculous, and will give a team exponentially more of an advantage if that trend were to repeat over and over. You also shouldn't be able to acquire 4/5 ordnance drops in a single game, so implementing the Point Increase Multiplier would be of benefit.

[Jam Cliché]

Watered down Ordnance in general is okay in my book.

[Anarchy]

Then comes the problem that some people are getting nades, and others are getting a SAW. As it stands now you at least get something similar to what the other person gets for each slot.


How about we just remove ordnances? Could be great to actually play as an arena shooter again...

[THExSPIDERMAN]

Remove the ordnances.

[ThatAwkardGuy]

Remove it? Yes. This isn't rando-McGee shooter 24. This is halo.

[Anarchy]

Actually there's been a lot of people supporting making our gamertypes more on the side of "Classic" in terms of set loadouts like Reach, with AAs spawning on map and such.

I'll start a poll in the forge department later tonight to gauge that.

[bl4yze]

Then comes the problem that some people are getting nades, and others are getting a SAW. As it stands now you at least get something similar to what the other person gets for each slot.

Also goes for players receiving a Speed Boost in flag, whilst another continually gets frags and pulse grenades. I wouldn't be opposed to removing the SAW all together, it is ridiculously OP since the update and having it as a neutral map spawn would be much better.

How about we just remove ordnances? Could be great to actually play as an arena shooter again...

I'm all for removing Ordnance, 100%, I think it was brought up in Rec2 and shot down almost immediately. Or just have Ordnance for BR, LR and DMR ammo if anything.

Even something like this would be much better imo:

Left Slot	Middle Slot	Right Slot
Frag Grenades Plasma Grenades Pulse Grenades	Needler Concussion Rifle Gravity Hammer	Battle Rifle DMR Light Rifle

[bl4yze]

Actually there's been a lot of people supporting making our gamertypes more on the side of "Classic" in terms of set loadouts like Reach, with AAs spawning on map and such.

I'll start a poll in the forge department later tonight to gauge that.

I also remember the amount of backlash when pistols were default secondary pre-Boltshot patch. I'd absolutely love set loadouts, with AAs spawning on map with a respawn time of 2 minutes or 90 seconds, or even AAs in Ordnance. Having Jetpacks etc placed in strategic positions of the map will add a more balanced style of play. Hardlight shields spawning around Hill/Extraction points etc.

[Zeta Crossfire]

I'm not for set loadouts, but I am for either getting rid of ordinances or watering them down.

[silversleek(GEN)]

I'm not for set loadouts, but I am for either getting rid of ordinances or watering them down.