View Poll Results: Which rank structure would you prefer?

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  • The current one (Army, Marine, Navy mix)

    9 36.00%
  • Navy & Marine mix

    5 20.00%
  • Navy only

    1 4.00%
  • Marine only

    6 24.00%
  • Army only

    4 16.00%
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  1. #11

    Re: Update the ranking system!

    I Agree We should Switch the ranks out because we need to be as accurate to halo as possible

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    my Rank wont change ether way lol

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    Re: Update the ranking system!

    Holy shit, we can put footnotes on our post???????

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    Quote Originally Posted by silversleek View Post
    you actually cited things. i'm kind of impressed.

    sergeant major of the army will probably stay, as that rank currently holds a specific purpose. however, there have been claims of their being too many ranks before. Although, those were more targeted in the 'enlisted' center than the officer corp, so i don't think warrant officer, cwo are going. unless those were made into enlisted ranks. it's been awhile since i've kept up on this sort of stuff. Either way, i like it purely on the basis that someone took the time to come up with a different system to use instead of just muttering softly to themselves about the ranks.
    Well, I believe that if you cite stuff while presenting a researched proposal, you look smarter, articulated, and cooler. Also reddit will eat you alive if you don't quote stuff while debating.
    I understand that the current system works, and it's gotten some concern in the past. My goal with this was to even out the number of Enlisted and Officer positions, plus one for the Special rank. But I do appreciate your kind words. If it makes you feel better, I lost about 5 hours of sleep on this


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    Quote Originally Posted by RENGADE 0F FUNK View Post
    Field Marshal will also stay because tradition, if anything did come from this.
    Fair enough. I'll make a new list and add that in. What if, say, we name it Fleet Marshal? It's not that much of a change, and it still holds almost the same meaning.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Solace View Post
    I agree with the purposed changes, we in BLUE rarely use ranks such as Sergeant Major of the Army. I personally believe that having the Warrant Officer ranks a kinda pointless at this point in time. I'd like to see this change to be implemented at sometime within the Community if possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lol its James View Post
    So bump every executive officer to 2nd Lt? Because in redd, WO and CWO mean two different things, xo and more experienced xo. Just wanted to see where you were going with this
    Like others pointed out, I am extremely new to this community, and don't entirely understand each ranks' responsibilities. My goal was to simplify the ranking structure so that newer members wouldn't feel like they have to grind their way through this community. Granted, if the community gets large enough, then it would be most sensible to instantiate new ranks and such.

    To answer your question, I feel that every Warrant Officer would be would be promoted to 2ndLt, and Chief Warrant Officers would then be 1stLt. This will still differentiate between former WOs and CWOs, while fitting into the new structure.

    Quote Originally Posted by NervyDestroyer View Post
    I also adopt that system with Warrant Officers. Warrant Officer = Inexperienced XO and Chief Warrant Officer = Experienced XO

    The issue with redoing the ranks is it would have to be worked out what NCO ranks are, what XO ranks are, and what CO ranks are. Then new usergroups need to be made. I don't see much problem with our current system. Very well thought out though.
    Understood, sir. If you'll direct your attention to the table below, this is my suggest at a first pass to reorganising the ranks.

    Current Rank Structure Proposed Rank Structure
    Recruit (RCT) Recruit (Rct)
    Private (PVT) Private (Pvt)
    Private First Class (PFC) Private First Class (PFC)
    Specialist (SPC) Lance Corporal (LCp)
    Lance Corporal (LCP) Lance Corporal (LCp)
    Corporal (CPL) Corporal (Cpl)
    Sergeant (SGT) Sergeant (Sgt)
    Staff Sergeant (SSG) Staff Sergeant (SSg)
    Gunnery Sergeant (GSG) Chief Petty Officer (CPO)
    Master Sergeant (MSG) Master Sergeant (MSg)
    Sergeant Major (SGM) Master Chief Petty Officer (MCP)
    Sergeant Major of the Army (SMA) -
    Warrant Officer (WO) Second Lieutenant (2Lt)
    Chief Warrant Officer (CWO) First Lieutenant (1Lt)
    Second Lieutenant (2LT) Captain (Cpt)
    First Lieutenant (1LT) -
    Captain (CPT) Lieutenant Commander (LCd)
    Major (MAJ) Commander (Cdr)
    Lieutenant Colonel (LTC) -
    Colonel (COL) Colonel (Col)
    Brigadier General (BRG) Brigadier General (BGn)
    Major General (MJG) Major General (MGn)
    Lieutenant General (LTG) Vice Admiral (VAd)
    General (GEN) General (Gen)
    Field Marshal (FM) Fleet Marshal (FM)

    Color coded enabled, to assist those that prefer so. Again, I know I don't entirely understand the purpose of each rank, but I'm sure using this, there's potential in the future to clean it up.

    I've also edited the main post to reflect this suggestion.

    Quote Originally Posted by NecroNocte View Post
    Cleaning the ranks up has been proposed before, and I do believe we have actually changed the ranks up before too. I don't think the ranks need to be cleaned up, rather people need to be placed in their rank based on their job. You've come at a low activity point. This means that the rank structure looks broken. We have high level officers leading squads, etc.
    Heh, if it didn't look broken, I wouldn't be writing this

    "..people need to be placed in their ranked based on their job... high level officers leading squads, etc" I totally get that. But do you really need 14 Officer ranks (including WO/CWO) to be Squad Leaders, when all the Squad Leaders (people who ONLY are Squad Leaders) can share say, 5 titles, and still have unique responsibilities?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spartanbh View Post
    While I always am up for a more authentic/canon approach, and you did an EXCELLENT job and made great points, right now it is a bit difficult to make any kind of significant changes to our rank system. I'm not saying that as a traditionalist (because I always liked having as many ranks as possible), but realistically, we already are struggling with having too many ranks, to the point where it looks kind of sloppy on our rank rosters, because we'll have some ranks with no one in it or just one, and other ranks will be filled with people.

    I could see something like this becoming much more of a possibility if we have a significant increase in dedicated soldiers as well as a resurgence of role playing and lore.

    We appreciate your enthusiasm however, and we are always looking for ideas that make our community more fun and exciting and efficient!
    Thank you for the lovely words! I understand the traditionalist perspective, and tried to compensate it by keeping ~13 of the current 25 ranks at the same level in the chain-of-command. Your statements regarding the empty or "sloppy rosters" is pretty much what I first noticed when I decided to suggest a revision.

    I understand that changing the system to becoming a different size, honestly, will be quite a bit of work, and likely will lead to opposition and complaints. But if I may, is that not what leaders are for? To be there, to listen to those in their care, and to resolve disputes when new conflicts with old?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drth spartan View Post
    I Agree We should Switch the ranks out because we need to be as accurate to halo as possible

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    my Rank wont change ether way lol

    Heh, sorry bud. Most of the changes are in the Officer positions. What you can do, though, is get swole, pump lead, be active, and get proMOOOOOTEDDDDD!!!!
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    Re: Update the ranking system!

    Quote Originally Posted by RENGADE 0F FUNK View Post
    Field Marshal will also stay because tradition, if anything did come from this.
    lol you're back?

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  5. #15

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    The ranking system hasn't always been the same, probably the only reason why it's stayed like this so long is because the community asked for rank specific usergroups as well, in all honesty these changes don't happen either because of lack of effort or interest.

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  7. #17

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    Ok so reading through your excellent chart showing the ranks we have now and what you propose, I like it. You'd hear no complaints from me if it was changed so feel free to -1 from the "keep them the way they are"
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    Re: Update the ranking system!

    Quote Originally Posted by NervyDestroyer View Post
    Ok so reading through your excellent chart showing the ranks we have now and what you propose, I like it. You'd hear no complaints from me if it was changed so feel free to -1 from the "keep them the way they are"
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    Re: Update the ranking system!

    Though I don't participate or won't for a while at least until I get off base, but I do like the suggestion at updating the ranks. But lol at making E-7 Chief Petty Officer in the middle of a bunch of marine ranks. Looks funny since I'm in the Navy
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