View Poll Results: Should We Try Having Team FM Elections For Next War?

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  1. #1

    Team Field Marshal Elections Vote

    It was suggested that we bring this to a vote to properly gauge interest, so let's go.
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    Re: Team Field Marshal Elections Vote

    You mean where the FMs would be running mates yes?
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  3. #3

    Re: Team Field Marshal Elections Vote

    yes
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  4. #4

    Re: Team Field Marshal Elections Vote

    I'll once again raise the issue I posted in the last thread,

    Quote Originally Posted by Legendary Nova View Post
    The only thing I think would be negative from this is if someone wants to run for FM but can't find anyone else to run with as a team because either everyone else is already paired up or doesn't want to run.
    FM really shouldn't be something where you have to go on a scavenger hunt for a team mate in order to run.

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    Re: Team Field Marshal Elections Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Legendary Nova View Post
    I'll once again raise the issue I posted in the last thread,



    FM really shouldn't be something where you have to go on a scavenger hunt for a team mate in order to run.
    keep in mind, this essentially means finding ONE PERSON with a modicrum of ambition to share your beliefs. If you can't convince one person of your worth in that manner, do you have any right to be leading an army?
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  6. #6

    Re: Team Field Marshal Elections Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by silversleek View Post
    keep in mind, this essentially means finding ONE PERSON with a modicrum of ambition to share your beliefs. If you can't convince one person of your worth in that manner, do you have any right to be leading an army?
    It's not about convincing someone to believe in your motives, it's about convincing someone else to run for FM with you. The way this would run is if there's an odd number of people who want to run for FM there's always going to be that one person who doesn't even get a shot just because they were the odd one out.

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  7. #7

    Re: Team Field Marshal Elections Vote

    Very very sceptical of this for the reasons Nova has raised, this honestly will stop people making the step up in leadership
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  8. #8

    Re: Team Field Marshal Elections Vote

    While I admit I don't know the intricacies of this idea or how it came about, I would have to agree that adding what would seem to be a numbers-limited criteria in order to run for leadership seems rather counterintuitive, and a step in the wrong direction. Why should the ambitions of a prospective leader be constrained because he or she can't find a partner? And where is the correlation that having a partner means you are more 'worthy' (I can't believe that word was even used in a post by another member personally) of being a Field Marshal? As far as I knew, the traditional method involved an individual member of an army writing a speech which would convince the masses in voting for them. Isn't that more powerful? Quality > Quantity.

    EDIT:

    I would also like to add that I think this 'pairing' system will only seem to encourage 'bandwagoning' of popular and mainstream ideologies. Which could potentially impact and serve as a detriment to creative ideas and talents that prospective leaders may have, because their proposals may go against the norm and would limit their ability to find a partner.
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    Re: Team Field Marshal Elections Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Nihlus View Post
    While I admit I don't know the intricacies of this idea or how it came about
    Someone pitched it in one of the skype chats, I forget who had the initial idea. see the other thread for about all the details that there are right now

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Nihlus View Post
    I would have to agree that adding what would seem to be a numbers-limited criteria in order to run for leadership seems rather counterintuitive, and a step in the wrong direction. Why should the ambitions of a prospective leader be constrained because he or she can't find a partner?

    That is the downside to it. The upside is meant to have war council actually able to agree on things in stead of getting into too many week long arguments that don't really get resolved.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Nihlus View Post
    And where is the correlation that having a partner means you are more 'worthy' (I can't believe that word was even used in a post by another member personally) of being a Field Marshal?
    well, nobody used the word "worthy" :P but the idea of the correlation is to show you have support for your plans amongst the officer base/highcoms. Ideally, this would be done during a time with much bigger numbers in FC to alleviate some of the downsides with not finding a partner.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Nihlus View Post
    As far as I knew, the traditional method involved an individual member of an army writing a speech which would convince the masses in voting for them. Isn't that more powerful? Quality > Quantity.
    You said it yourself, Quality > Quantity. This (ideally) ups the quality, and as a downside also might reduce some quantity. I don't see how some guy you never know writing up a generic speech about how he's going to make everything better fighting against the odds is better than a Team of two people writing up a speech about how they're going to make everything better, with the pretty much garunteed power to do so. Our leaders will have more power, less bureaucracy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Nihlus View Post

    I would also like to add that I think this 'pairing' system will only seem to encourage 'bandwagoning' of popular and mainstream ideologies. Which could potentially impact and serve as a detriment to creative ideas and talents that prospective leaders may have, because their proposals may go against the norm and would limit their ability to find a partner.
    Perhaps, potential of everyone bandwagoning onto the same "track" is a legitimate concern.

    Perhaps as an idea, We simply give an OPTION to run as pairs or as a single? There's nothing that says ideas can't be compromised.
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  10. #10

    Re: Team Field Marshal Elections Vote

    +1 support.

    At the end of the day, our ability to come together is a lot more important than us having a lot of debates. The community will vote for what it wants, and will then get it, rather than a political battle between the most voted idea and the 2nd most voted idea.


    Leaders on the same page doesn't mean idea suppression or ignoring of what people may want, it means actual progress on a road the community voted for.


    ...And if you can't find one individual who wants to run with you, you'll probably have an even worse time getting 50%+ of the community to vote for you. I don't see this as a hindrance. Every good FM FC has ever had would have a line of people wanting to run with them.
    Last edited by Anarchy; 04-16-2016 at 10:08 PM.



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