That WAR-SIM feel. Let's bring it back.

[Nocte]

The reason why I am posting this is because I sent this to Lococrazy when he asked of things we wanted changed, well I don't really think that it is in his power to make sure changes. Rather he can suggest it. Well I've talked to a few people and they want it to happen.

I want REDD Army to be different then BLUE Army, not by the soldiers and leaders that are in it, but by the way it is ran. I would like to see a different rank structure then that of BLUE. One thing I said when Spartan first became a Forerunner was why have symmetrical Rank Structures and they said it's easier. Which I don't agree with, I think it would be somewhat very interesting to have done in this community. We are two separate factions. REDD keeps a military rank structure, while BLUE gets a more rag-tag rank structure. Add depth to it.

A recruit in REDD is called an Initiate in BLUE, where your enlisted are in REDD you have soldier classifications in BLUE. Eriri has created a back-drop for this community to work with. I want to use it, sure we can write stories about it on the forums. Anyone can do that, give them a time and place and some background and you have a story. However why not live by it, run the community by it.

This war is suppose to be new, a new generation of FC, but yet we still go by the past. Reach isn't the past, it's the present. The here and now, not the then and there. We need to try and hook more people into this community and honestly the way we go about how we do things isn't all that interesting.

Kuhblam seems to not have the time to write a indepth story of FC, so why not have FC be the story. I will write weekly news reports just as Eriri did back when I first joined in FC.

Here is a mock rank structure that mirrors that of what we currently have. The only reason why I did it this way (not adding more or taking less) is because these ranks aren't mine to finalize rather BLUE Army's.

Rank List

HighCom:
Field Marshal

General

Lieutenant General

Officers:
Full Bird - Colonel

Half Bird - Lieutenant Colonel

Major

Captain

1st Officer - 1st Lieutenant

2nd Officer - 2nd Lieutenant

Chief Petty Officer - Chief Warrant Officer

Petty Officer - Warrant Officer

Enlisted:
Veteran of the Brotherhood - Sergeant Major of the Army

Terminator - Sergeant Major

Assassin - 1st Sergeant

Infiltrator - Master Sergeant

Veteran - Gunnery Sergeant

Staff Sergeant

Sergeant

Soldier - Corporal

Maggot - Lance Corporal

Fighter - Specialist

Rebel - Private First Class

Follower - Private

The people I've talked to have told me some of the ranks are stupid sounding, but look at it this way. BLUE is a resistance based army. Not organized, think of the names from a writing perspective. We have two squads one has a Terminator on the field and the other an Asssassin.

To me this feeling of a war-sim is dead. As in completely gone. What we call each other names from time to time in a playful manner?

I joined because Recanz told me FC was a military based war-sim and when I joined I saw that. I saw REDD flying flags like loving patriots. Sure under the mask the gameplay wasn't fun because of both sides stacking, but the feeling of fighting for an army felt great.

This place isn't like that anymore, half of the problem is the new guys joining and ONLY CARING ABOUT FUCKING WINNING. Let me tell you something, I am friends with a lot of those people.

Their is a difference between winning the war because you want to win it for your army and winning because you want to win. I've heard of squad leaders positions being threatened because their squads weren't winning....

If you want to win, win as an Army. Not as a squad. I want to here how BR won the war for BLUE. I don't want to here how ICE won the war for BLUE. I have never counted my squad wins nor have I ever told anyone to. Why? Because we win as an army we lose an army.

Let's bring that war-sim feel back, add that roleplaying feel back. Instead of soldiers caring about their god-damn w/l in this community they trash talk the other team saying how their army will prevail in the up-coming battles.

We hate MLG, but this community is just steps from being that type of community and no one sees it. Everything that made this community great is falling right from under us.

I want Forerunner Conflict back, I want REDD and BLUE war-flags flying everywhere I post. I want people getting into petty arguments over why their army is better. I wanna see REDD and BLUE personal kill counts. Not your squad's win/loss.

We start this by removing the generic same rank structure system we have here.

[bazongaman502]

Veteran of the Brotherhood

but your not the brotherhood lol

interesting idea, however i still believe both armies should still have the same ranks, just in case someone changes army, that they dont get lost in the rank structure

[Nocte]

but your not the brotherhood lol

interesting idea, however i still believe both armies should still have the same ranks, just in case someone changes army, that they dont get lost in the rank structure

It's called adapting and learning. Humans tend to do it everytime they do something new....

[silversleek(GEN)]

It's called adapting and learning. Humans tend to do it everytime they do something new....

i like the idea, but i agree with the people you talked to, the ranks you came up with don't really fit.

Also,
<------senior member? does that go by post count or something because i really don't think i would be considered senior. Not that i'm complaining..

[bazongaman502]

It's called adapting and learning. Humans tend to do it everytime they do something new....

i get where your going however, just really quick of something i noticed:

This place isn't like that anymore, half of the problem is the new guys joining and ONLY CARING ABOUT FUCKING WINNING.

So you dont want it to be a competition... ok i can concur to that...

I want REDD and BLUE war-flags flying everywhere I post. I want people getting into petty arguments over why their army is better. I wanna see REDD and BLUE personal kill counts.

Thats a form of competition, however its not as bad as it is currently...

Also you said it should be about your kill/death rather then win/loss... ok, however its kinda hard to go with that when Halo basically sums, if you got more kills, chances are you won.... also just a quick question, and be completly honest, dont change your honest answer just to support something... heres the question:

You have to bring in a team to face an armies best players (lets say its a 6v6), but you only have a team thats not good at all avalible, however your best teams game is almost over... are you gonna wait??? or put in your worst players???

Reason im asking this is because if i were to be facing "REDDs Best" players with 5 not so good players, im gonna wait... its not fun to get slaughtered.... it causes rage... rage isnt fun... that being said that kind of "competition" is gonna stay around no matter how you look at it... it sucks when you look at it, but its gonna happen...

im not dissagreeing with you, its just your asking alot for something that probably wont change no matter what

EDIT: Welcome to this generation, ever since MLG became soooo popular, winning became the only kind of fun out there... if this were to happen before MLG became so big, this issue wouldnt be happening

[Nocte]

I would wait, and no it isn't a lot to ask. The FC I'm talking about was FC a year ago. I don't mean K/D I mean over all kills. Just kills. How many REDD or BLUE bodies you spent. Like Maxdoggy's sig. Their will always be a competitive side to this community yes, thats because Reach itself is built to be competitive. Gaming in general has turned to the competitive side, the game rewards you for winning.

We can turn that competitive side into something different though. We can turn it into Patriotism for the entire army. I would rather see someone tell me their army is better then mine, then their squad is better then mine.

Besides this isn't all about changing the competitive side, rather the feel of being in a war between an Imperial Empire and a Brotherhood of resistance fighters.

[Spartanbh]

[ChillSquishster]

The only problem with the ranks is I would want to be called a terminator or assassin but I don't want to have to drop down ranks

[Fiery Grave]

I would wait, and no it isn't a lot to ask. The FC I'm talking about was FC a year ago.

you should have seen it two years ago... that was best.

blue had more fun with it and had more members (not a significant amount) and was more lax with rules. Red was a little more competitive and with slightly less members and more strict on rules.

and it was all about the KD spread. and it also wasn't a big deal for squads to not play together because everyone just wanted to have fun

[laxspartan007]

someone say my name?