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    Re: Greece Riots!

    Quote Originally Posted by EAGLE View Post
    1. That 1% makes the most money and it makes sense for them to pay, I mean after all you don't need millions of dollars to live... Besides that I do recall many of people in that top 1% wanting to be taxed. But we both agree lower taxes means higher spending rates. As for off-shore banking accounts, sure they get taxed, but not like they do here. In fact places like the Caribbean didn't or don't tax at all right now or before. So those accounts are completely safe.

    2. I understand our economy is global, things aren't black and white anymore.

    I agree unions are bad, because it is a thing that is greatly ruining our education system.

    As for Obama I don't know why I'm defending him, I really don't like him. At the same time the only Republican I would vote for is Ron Paul and he isn't even close to winning the election. (From what I've read Sanctorum has taken lead.....)

    3. Ya I think I even saw two different looking graphs on the same wikipedia page

    4. I guess I kinda fell trap to Obama's State of the Union, because I've been very optimistic with him. Really kinda of boning me...

    5. Shoot, no pun intended :p

    6. Like I said, the school system. We need to socialize it, because we are trying so hard to pass as many students as possible. A socialistic approach to that would be good, however need to keep the capitalistic competition so that the intelligent students can excess further. (Sidenote I would love to have a more freedomfied <-- My word :p version of China's education system. Where they find what you're good at and then teach you that the rest of your schooling. Only we get to choose that profession in High School. So me wanting to be a Journalist can take more English classes and less Math classes.

    As for the word "Democracy" in the Constitution, I don't know if you mean it as a joke. Because we aren't a Democracy, we are a Republic and if you want you can call it a Democratic Republic.
    Yes, the top 1% should pay a good portion of the taxes. However, my only point is that their 35% income tax rate is causing them to want to leave the country, which should make it obvious that it's too high. If we want to compete in the global economy, we need to be willing to actually compete.

    The way that companies and businesses compete is by making higher quality products and by charging lower prices. However, we as a country are increasing prices (high income taxes) and punishing successful corporations (high corporate taxes and unions).

    If we want to fix the economy, the first and quickest way to do it is to reduce taxes and regulate unions.



    I also don't like the Republican nominees very much. xD It's like trying to choose "who will screw up the least" because every one of them is a politician. Which is why I preferred Herman Cain.



    I actually think the opposite of the school system. I think removing the socialization would be best. Currently, we are too focused on getting everyone to pass and not focused enough on letting the highest tier students succeed. But maybe that's just me, because I'm one of those guys that has been limited because the public school system doesn't like people who are too smart.



    On the democracy part, I was intending to respond to this (since I apparently missed it the first time I read it):
    Quote Originally Posted by EAGLE View Post
    We also need to get rid of the electoral college. It's a crock of shit and is another thing that takes away from the democracy we are suppose to have.
    1. As you said, we are a Republic, and the electoral college is there because of that.

    2. In my personal opinion, 99% of the people in this country (and in fact on this planet) are completely stupid. Therefore, I disagree with removing the electoral college and giving those 99% even more control over our government... >.>
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    Re: Greece Riots!

    I completely agree with the education going to a more competitive structure, where the top tier people get the most out of their education. Only we have NCLB, which is a goddamn disgrace to the education system. I have kids who purposely fail out of actual school, just to go the board where they take easy tests online and only go to school for four hours a day, and they get their diploma that way.

    You can't fight the fact that we need more intelligent people in this country, so socializing the education system so that all people can get a high quality education would be the best. The competitive system is dead and gone, no matter how badly people like me and you want it back. So we have to do something to ensure that students in primary education get all of that knowledge. Parents want their kids to succeed, but they want it to be easy on them in school.

    If it was up to me I wouldn't worry about academics, and focus more on real world applications. Teach students how the world is, not teach them one thing and them push them off into another. If you take a High School Econ class I can guarantee they won't tell you, how difficult the actual world economy is to understand. They will give you this dumbed down version of it, and pass it off as you no know how the economy works. (Haven't take Econ yet, but am this year.) Why don't we teach Economics in school like we do Science or Math? I love Science, but I could give two shits less about Biology. I really like Chemistry and I can't wait for Physics.

    But this is another issue :p Maybe I'll create another topic.


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    Re: Greece Riots!

    Quote Originally Posted by EAGLE View Post
    I completely agree with the education going to a more competitive structure, where the top tier people get the most out of their education. Only we have NCLB, which is a goddamn disgrace to the education system. I have kids who purposely fail out of actual school, just to go the board where they take easy tests online and only go to school for four hours a day, and they get their diploma that way.

    You can't fight the fact that we need more intelligent people in this country, so socializing the education system so that all people can get a high quality education would be the best. The competitive system is dead and gone, no matter how badly people like me and you want it back. So we have to do something to ensure that students in primary education get all of that knowledge. Parents want their kids to succeed, but they want it to be easy on them in school.

    If it was up to me I wouldn't worry about academics, and focus more on real world applications. Teach students how the world is, not teach them one thing and them push them off into another. If you take a High School Econ class I can guarantee they won't tell you, how difficult the actual world economy is to understand. They will give you this dumbed down version of it, and pass it off as you no know how the economy works. (Haven't take Econ yet, but am this year.) Why don't we teach Economics in school like we do Science or Math? I love Science, but I could give two shits less about Biology. I really like Chemistry and I can't wait for Physics.

    But this is another issue :p Maybe I'll create another topic.
    I completely agree that we need more intelligent people, but I disagree on the method of achieving it. However, like you said, it'd be best to do that in a different thread.


    Basic Economics classes, for the most part, review general Economic models and theories. While it doesn't usually go into the finer details and minutia of the economy, the theories and models are still valid, so I think you underestimate the quality of the class.

    (I can't truly speak about high school economics classes, since I've never taken any, but the above is true for college-level economics classes at least).
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    Re: Greece Riots!

    Thank god I took college level macro Econ in High school or I would be able to follow any of this lol

    But you really should take Econ. It helps ALOT

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