Everything Forward Unto Dawn

**Nocte** · 11-02-2012, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by GhostHammer

Not even close, Eagle's facts are contradicting (As per normal)

All of the "Mark IV" variants you supplied in your first post are either Nobel Mark V variants or Mark VI Variants from Halo 3, non of which would work with a non-shielded Mark IV suit. You rely on Halopedia but, like all Wiki's, it can be edited by anyone, and can be inaccurate, as shown here. Any component Mark IV and older will not be compatible with a Mark V and newer suit due to shielded and changes in power supply/electronics, especially that pertaining to supporting a smart AI in armor.

Before you try and lecture me on things kid, get your facts straight.

My facts aren't contradicting. At all.

Go read the article, not just click the images.

Under Armor Variants, read the Advanced Hardware Program. Some of the variants weren't created until later. Even then however the variants can look how they do and still be compatible with the Mk. IV. The internal components and hardware are the things that wouldn't be compatible. Not the cosmetics.

Besides as I said before, we haven't seen Kelly's helmet. Ever in any game. As for Fred's it looks like the Mk. V[B]. Chief's looks like standard Mk. IV. Kelly's armor however looks new.

**GhostHammer** · 11-02-2012, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by Nocte

My facts aren't contradicting. At all.

Go read the article, not just click the images.

Under Armor Variants, read the Advanced Hardware Program. Some of the variants weren't created until later. Even then however the variants can look how they do and still be compatible with the Mk. IV. The internal components and hardware are the things that wouldn't be compatible. Not the cosmetics.

Besides as I said before, we haven't seen Kelly's helmet. Ever in any game. As for Fred's it looks like the Mk. V[B]. Chief's looks like standard Mk. IV. Kelly's armor however looks new.

Assuming you were right, which you're not, it still is not possible. Corbulo was attached in 2526, the earliest possible armor configuration would be EOD as according to your very incorrect information. Rather, 343 simply made live action armor to look similar to that of Nobel, in order to please fans that MC is "better" when that also is not true.

It states in Fall Of Reach that in August of 2525 every Spartan-II was given a Mark IV MJOLNIR suit, all identical. John was the first to be outfitted as he was the "lucky" one.

Seriously kid, you're shits all out of whack. The Wiki page has been edited by some idiot who didn't have his shit in order. It's very simple, the Canon never touches on customizing Mark IV suits until the visual mistake in FuD which as I said above, it probably to make MC look like the "best" and add on to his prestige. Your trying to use incorrect data to argue and incorrect fact.

This article is the most canon accurate on the Mark IV armor system and cites all Canon references to wear any customizations would have taken place. Incorrectly, it adds the EVA / Grenadier helmet to the Mark IV armor when both are Mark V components.
http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/MJOLNIR_P..._Armor/Mark_IV

**Al Capone111** · 11-02-2012, 02:04 PM

Mistakes are made
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**Vestige** · 11-02-2012, 02:04 PM

*cough* post the damn video? *cough* I should go get this *cough* checked out...

Found it.

**Nocte** · 11-02-2012, 02:11 PM

Oh I agree on the date on which they received the armor, as well as when Chief, Fred, and Kelly went to Circinius IV.

What I'm saying that, we don't have much information at all on actual variants for Mk. IV. Just because their are no current non-canon sources doesn't rule them out. After all Spartan's were the best of the best. They would of had to be given customizations at some point to fit their style of combat.

I find it laughable though, that you're getting all bent of shape on this. Saying my facts "as per normal" are wrong, and pressing that absolutely nothing I'm currently saying it correct.

As for the "visual mistake" of FuD, I don't think it's a visual mistake. I think that Mk. IV had customizations before we think they do. I mean c'mon out of all of the MJOLNIR armor versions the Spartans have worn. Mk. IV was the longest.

Case in point 343 needs to make themselves a wiki or something similar.

**GhostHammer** · 11-02-2012, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by Nocte

Oh I agree on the date on which they received the armor, as well as when Chief, Fred, and Kelly went to Circinius IV.

What I'm saying that, we don't have much information at all on actual variants for Mk. IV. Just because their are no current non-canon sources doesn't rule them out. After all Spartan's were the best of the best. They would of had to be given customizations at some point to fit their style of combat.

I find it laughable though, that you're getting all bent of shape on this. Saying my facts "as per normal" are wrong, and pressing that absolutely nothing I'm currently saying it correct.

As for the "visual mistake" of FuD, I don't think it's a visual mistake. I think that Mk. IV had customizations before we think they do. I mean c'mon out of all of the MJOLNIR armor versions the Spartans have worn. Mk. IV was the longest.

Case in point 343 needs to make themselves a wiki or something similar.

Then you've just proven you point as wrong. If something isn't stated in canon fact, it can't be considered fact like you have said. It can be speculated that there are variants, but until it is stated in fact though canon it is just that, speculation. Therefore, based on facts, there are no variants of Mark IV besides what Chief and the others were outfitted with originally.

Opinions on if there is or not are just that, opinions. We're dealing with facts though. I'm not bent out of shape, I just get bored with people who don't deal with the correct information and don't sugar coat telling them they're wrong. Don't like that? Oh well, that's how I am.

**Nocte** · 11-02-2012, 02:22 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c720B...eature=related

I found this very cool. Him just standing there in the suit makes me jelly.

**SuRroundeD By 1** · 11-02-2012, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by VictimsVestige

*cough* post the damn video? *cough* I should go get this *cough* checked out...

Found it.

Sorry bud, I have school and wasn't able to get on until literally ten minutes ago XD I post as soon as possible but usually I get help from people who post it on the forums first. Thanks!