Should There Be Battles On Mother's Day?

[bazongaman502]

Idk if BLUE has it, but REDD has a medal that it represents "Showing up every Sunday of an entire war"... Having a battle on Mothers day is basically telling those who are trying to get that medal "either get on the xbox and ignore mothers day so you can earn a fake medal" or "Go spend time with your mother and family but lose your chance of getting that medal"... its like you box people in positions they dont want to be in. Sure the medal is fake, but it shows dedication. You can't put family on hold just to play a video game... thats fucked up if you do do that. Unless you literally can't do it, then its understandable.

[RaZ Vader]

Kazuhll is right about looking at it as though it is the representative of the entire population. I for one don't want to play a battle where Blue only can field 1/4 of REDD. Also on Kazuhll's thought, I don't want to play an understrength army. I like playing teams at their very best. And Zeta, you're being incredibly rude.

What he say? Anyway... Just wait and see.

[KazuhLLL]

What he say? Anyway... Just wait and see.

We shouldn't think about the poll in the raw numbers: 25 people can't make it? Well that's not too bad, we should keep going.

Think about it in percentages. If we view this vote as being generally representative of the FC population (including non-forum browsers) then 25/61 voters voting against it is about ~41% of the population. Trying to host battles with that great a drop in attendance is going to be as Phoenix said: stressful. Even those voting to keep the battles will start complaining again when the wait times are 20-30 minutes between each match.

EDIT: I'll also point out that there's a few more BLUEs voting against it and slightly more REDDs voting for it. Not too significantly in either way, but REDD would probably end up with 1 or 2 more squads than BLUE. You might say, "That's BLUE's own damn fault. Sucks for them!"

To that, I should also point out that of the BLUEs voting to cancel it, not a single one has been a member of Legacy or Sparta. We've had complaints about over-playing "stacked" squads in the past, and I would prefer not to see any more of that talk in the future. :P

[Zeta Crossfire]

And Zeta, you're being incredibly rude.

I'm being rude because I want to play to participate in battles? The whole reason I am even a part of this community is the battles and I, personally, don't consider mothers day a reason to take the day off battles. My mother knows I love her, I visit her often and I don't need a day to tell me when to appreciate her.

In my opinion, under no circumstances, we should cancel a battle night. Even if only 40 people show up I feel that is enough of a reason to hold a battle night. I will still be against the war councils decision to cancel the battle night on Easter and I will forever be against canceling battle nights. The only time I will personally be ok with canceling a battle night is if an army does not show up and has to forfeit the night.


Can I make it to every battle night? No, I'll eventually have obligations that will make me miss a night but that doesn't mean the battles should cease.

[xXReiBearXx]

I'm being rude because I want to play to participate in battles? The whole reason I am even a part of this community is the battles and I, personally, don't consider mothers day a reason to take the day off battles. My mother knows I love her, I visit her often and I don't need a day to tell me when to appreciate her.

In my opinion, under no circumstances, we should cancel a battle night. Even if only 40 people show up I feel that is enough of a reason to hold a battle night. I will still be against the war councils decision to cancel the battle night on Easter and I will forever be against canceling battle nights. The only time I will personally be ok with canceling a battle night is if an army does not show up and has to forfeit the night.


Can I make it to every battle night? No, I'll eventually have obligations that will make me miss a night but that doesn't mean the battles should cease.

I agree

[Silko]

I'm being rude because I want to play to participate in battles? The whole reason I am even a part of this community is the battles and I, personally, don't consider mothers day a reason to take the day off battles. My mother knows I love her, I visit her often and I don't need a day to tell me when to appreciate her.

In my opinion, under no circumstances, we should cancel a battle night. Even if only 40 people show up I feel that is enough of a reason to hold a battle night. I will still be against the war councils decision to cancel the battle night on Easter and I will forever be against canceling battle nights. The only time I will personally be ok with canceling a battle night is if an army does not show up and has to forfeit the night.


Can I make it to every battle night? No, I'll eventually have obligations that will make me miss a night but that doesn't mean the battles should cease.

You do realize that having so little people there 1) slows the battles to a crawl 2) gives inaccurate results. To not cancel on Easter would be a foolish thing to do. Now then if we ignore the religion part of it (Not very religious btw) and just look at stats about 70% of the US are Christian and about 75% of Canadians are Christian. The majority of our members are American and Canadian. Meaning that there is a high chance that a large amount our members would miss out on the battles. I have been to battles with less then 40 people for both armies, trust me it is NOT fun.

Edit: After looking the poll you can see that a large amount of members are for this cancellation. Are they in the minority? Yes. However if the minority has enough of a driving force behind it and is large enough, there should still be actions taken to accommodate said minorities.

[Nicholas Sapien]

Exactly^

We have also cancelled them on other mother's days in the past 2 years so why is this different?
same with father's day

[Deaf]

I'm being rude because I want to play to participate in battles? The whole reason I am even a part of this community is the battles and I, personally, don't consider mothers day a reason to take the day off battles. My mother knows I love her, I visit her often and I don't need a day to tell me when to appreciate her.

In my opinion, under no circumstances, we should cancel a battle night. Even if only 40 people show up I feel that is enough of a reason to hold a battle night. I will still be against the war councils decision to cancel the battle night on Easter and I will forever be against canceling battle nights. The only time I will personally be ok with canceling a battle night is if an army does not show up and has to forfeit the night.


Can I make it to every battle night? No, I'll eventually have obligations that will make me miss a night but that doesn't mean the battles should cease.

No, you are being rude in your attitude of "An entire army can't make it? Well, sucks to be them."

One person missing a battle isn't reason to stop. An entire army missing it is a very bad thing. Halo is a game. We have always stressed that someone's personal life comes first. You served under me for a while, I had hoped you learned that. This community is a wonderful thing and I've made some good friends on here (other than those jerks MD, Guzzie, and Silko), but we cannot neglect our other responsibilities. Major holidays are more important than battles. I think having a hobby which you can participate in 340 days a year is pretty damn good. Maybe its not smart to complain about missing two? And weren't you the one who gave us an ultimatum about how you'd leave if we had BR starts and you couldn't use your loadouts last week? I feel you keep making mountains out of molehills.

And as you heard from Kazuhll, it appears Legacy and Sparta are fine for the battle whereas the majority of other teams in Blue are not. If it were just our 3 best teams or so showing up, that would be okay, but it appears it will be most of Redd army. Can you imagine the wait times if REDD has 12 teams waiting to play 2-3 Blue teams? Not only that, but it unfairly skews the battle. It would be like VBD and Vanquish playing every Blue team in a week. Not exactly fair. The battles have to be cancelled in order to preserve their integrity.

You want something to play for? Do Garg's idea of wagering army credits on customs or swat or grifball. Hell, if you don't like that, we're always willing to scrim you. But as for the real battles, Silko is absolutely right. I don't think it takes a brain surgeon to realize that this battle cannot go on. Zeta, you're awesome, but just think outside of your own concerns and consider what's best for REDD and for FC, and you'll see that I'm right.

[THExSPIDERMAN]

I can no longer make it. I want to change my vote.

[Lil Nawty Lucia]

Can you imagine the wait times if REDD has 12 teams waiting to play 2-3 Blue teams?

2-3 teams Where are you guys getting the Idea that there will be almost no Blues able to play? CyberDyne, Legacy, and Sparta each, could field 2-3 teams. I bet blue would have a good 9-11 teams next Sunday. And going by that I dont see any need to cancel the Battle night.