Xbox One vs PS4

[Juggernaut9473]

Xbox One and Xbox 360 users cannot voice-chat cross-consoles. http://www.polygon.com/2013/8/12/461...ross-platforms

[Maxdoggy]

Text messaging works fine, but because of the different audio codecs + technobabble + pushing people to get Xbox One's, voice chat won't work cross-system.

[Maxdoggy]

Update via Microsoft spokespeople about the 180 on Kinect: http://kotaku.com/xbox-one-wont-actu...ium=Socialflow

UPDATE: A Microsoft spokesman has answered a couple of our questions:

Can games that use Kinect for supplemental features and commands still be played without Kinect, or will any game that uses Kinect at *all* need the Kinect plugged in?

If Kinect is only used to enable supplemental features in a particular title, then you will still be able to play that game if Kinect is unplugged. Games where Kinect is required – like “Kinect Sports Rivals,” for example – will of course need the sensor to be plugged in.

Does Microsoft still have no intentions of selling a Kinect-free bundle?

Though we’ve changed this requirement, Kinect is still an essential and integrated part of the Xbox One platform. By having it as a consistent part of every Xbox One, game and entertainment creators can build experiences that assume the availability of voice, gesture and natural sensing, leading to unrivaled ease of use, premium experiences and interactivity for consumers. We also strongly believe that once you try the all-new Kinect and the game and entertainment experiences it enhances or enables, you won’t want to use your Xbox One without it.

And here's Microsoft senior exec Albert Penello, posting on NeoGAF about the flip. (Bolded emphasis mine)

We still believe in Kinect. We aren’t interested in splitting the development base. The more demos I’ve seen, the more I’ve used it – the more impressed I am. The team feels strongly about Kinect, and I hope we’re able to prove that when you use it.

We also have a ton of privacy settings to allow people to turn off the camera, or microphones, or put it in a state just for “Xbox On” and IR blasting – there will be a lot of user control for that.

The thing we all understood, and hence this change, is that there are some scenarios where people just may not be comfortable. We wanted people to be 100% comfortable, so we allow the sensor to be unplugged. And clearly the “it dropped” scenario is possible.

The most obvious thing is watching a DVD/BD, or streaming a movie, or HDMI pass-through, your experience isn’t impacted (except you miss voice and IR blasting)

There is no “gotcha”, but obviously, if there is a game that REQUIRES Kinect (like Rivals), or something where Kinect IS the experience (like Skype), those won’t work.

That said, for people who have privacy concerns there are user control settings, which we believe are great.

[Juggernaut9473]

so many 180's

[Fiery Grave]

Wow this is some crazy reversal. Now lower the price, sell me a version without kinect and I'll me all over that day 1 edition.

that wont happen, they want the kenict to be something a devloper can assume every player has, and even if that player doesn't use it it allows them to get it into the game instead of being stopped so that it doesn't get the "better with kinect" sticker which has show to drop sales of a game as some people wont buy it if it uses kenict

also this

Does Microsoft still have no intentions of selling a Kinect-free bundle?

"Though we’ve changed this requirement, Kinect is still an essential and integrated part of the Xbox One platform. By having it as a consistent part of every Xbox One, game and entertainment creators can build experiences that assume the availability of voice, gesture and natural sensing, leading to unrivaled ease of use, premium experiences and interactivity for consumers. We also strongly believe that once you try the all-new Kinect and the game and entertainment experiences it enhances or enables, you won’t want to use your Xbox One without it."

so many 180's

people complained so much, and even though pre sale orders were beating PS4 for a while they realized people cannot see the reasoning for some of their decisions as they affect the development side a lot more than player side

[Asseroya]

Man, the Xbox One had so much potential, but people started whining like bitches and now what we have is a box filled with undigested crap.

[Maxdoggy]

New hands-on and in-depth video of the Xbox One controller:

[Maxdoggy]

Ten Reasons To Love The Xbox One Operating System (Including hints at new features): http://www.gamespot.com/gamescom/ten...ystem-6413655/

A White Xbox One is the only Xbox One I Want....and I can't haz it.
http://kotaku.com/this-white-xbox-on...ium=Socialflow

[Maxdoggy]

Pulling a move out of Sony's playbook of waiting-for-the-competition-to-make-an-announcement-before-finalizing-your-own-details, the Xbox One could be releasing November 8th - a full week ahead of the PS4 - if a Walmart leak is to be believed.

http://kotaku.com/the-xbox-one-might...ium=Socialflow

Boom goes the dynamite?


A release date before November 19th actually might make sense as "Watch_Dogs" isn't listed as a "Launch Title" for the Xbox One. I hate to trust Walmart, but the 8th could be the release date!


EDIT:

Best argument about getting the Xbox One ever from Kotaku:

Xbox One:
1. Can play used Xbox One Games
2. Doesn't require a Playstation Plus account for online multiplayer

PS4:
1. Cannot play used Xbox One Games
2. Requires a Playstation Plus account for online multiplayer.

The choice is obvious.

[KazuhLLL]

Pulling a move out of Sony's playbook of waiting-for-the-competition-to-make-an-announcement-before-finalizing-your-own-details, the Xbox One could be releasing November 8th - a full week ahead of the PS4 - if a Walmart leak is to be believed.

http://kotaku.com/the-xbox-one-might...ium=Socialflow

Boom goes the dynamite?


A release date before November 19th actually might make sense as "Watch_Dogs" isn't listed as a "Launch Title" for the Xbox One. I hate to trust Walmart, but the 8th could be the release date!


EDIT:

Best argument about getting the Xbox One ever from Kotaku:

If that's true, watch Sony PS4 stock "accidentally" leak the same day xD