Replace Hill 30 with Dominion Lockdown gametype.

[VerbotenDonkey]

So why don't we expand our list of gametypes, then evaluate which games are best played on a certain map based on its size, symmetry, and critical locations?

Because we need to keep it simple. I don't want to have to remember that we use Lockdown, but not on these Maps. We use this gametype, but not on these two maps. etc etc. It's easier for everyone.

[Jam Cliché]

Because we need to keep it simple. I don't want to have to remember that we use Lockdown, but not on these Maps. We use this gametype, but not on these two maps. etc etc. It's easier for everyone.

We ought to have learned by now that we can't expect to have everything work under that principle. Even 343 understood that not every gametype works well on every map. It's the whole reason they continue to edit their Matchmaking playlists over the course of a game's lifetime.

[bazongaman502]

Never knew about that glitch till now

[KazuhLLL]

I agree, but no Lockdown on Exile. Have you ever played Lockdown on Exile, dude the RED side has the better advantage because their are fusion coils beside Blue stairs. By the time 4 or 5 come up there, killtacular here i come.

Because we need to keep it simple. I don't want to have to remember that we use Lockdown, but not on these Maps. We use this gametype, but not on these two maps. etc etc. It's easier for everyone.

Heavy Hill 30 uses a Dominion base. Regular Hill 30 uses a KoTH base. Both variants are counted in the required Hill 30 wins needed to attack a Capital

That sounds simple enough to me :P

[Jam Cliché]

Heavy Hill 30 uses a Dominion base. Regular Hill 30 uses a KoTH base. Both variants are counted in the required Hill 30 wins needed to attack a Capital

That sounds simple enough to me :P

We considered this, but it also begs the question what do we do with Executive if it is the exclusive small map game while Dominion used to be the exclusive Heavy? Also, what happens with maps like Longbow, which easily deserves 5 bases in Dominion? Do we keep both Dominion and Lockdown?

[UnfoldedFreedom]

We considered this, but it also begs the question what do we do with Executive if it is the exclusive small map game while Dominion used to be the exclusive Heavy? Also, what happens with maps like Longbow, which easily deserves 5 bases in Dominion? Do we keep both Dominion and Lockdown?

we had hill 30 and king of the will why not have both

[Jam Cliché]

we had hill 30 and king of the will why not have both

I was thinking that as a viable option, but it's beginning to look like Hill 30 just isn't a good option. Why not take out "Hill 30" as part of our lineup, but have some maps retain only a single Dominion base, like Settler? While others have more, like Longbow?

Sorry to say it, but unless we exclude Occupation or Dominion entirely, then Hill 30 seems redundant until we find a better way to do it.

[bl4yze]

I'd be 100% behind just getting rid of Dominion

[Jam Cliché]

I'd be 100% behind just getting rid of Dominion

But with some maps that would suuuuuuck.