WC Needs Your Feedback

[silversleek(GEN)]

CHANGE SOMETING GOD DAMNIT!!!! JUST ENDING THE WAR AND WAITING IS GETTING NOTHING DONE!!!!!
I dont like a draft because people will leave, ive said it in my posts, and responses to the draft have been pretty clear. Something does need changed though and simply ending the war and waiting for H5 is NOT a solution to the problem, its postponing it again.

Agreed. People are saying not to just make change for the sake of change, but we're not. We need change because without it we die. We could wait till halo 5, maybe it's the saviour we've been waiting for, but if it's not? If it's not, and has issues like MCC did, we can't survive in our current state. I don't particularly like the idea of a draft. It's against a lot of what I believe this community stands for. But, I would accept one (grudgingly).

What I want is for WC to come to a decision to make a change. Without community feedback. I find our leaders are relying a bit too much on community feedback. What's the point of having leaders if they can't take initiative and make changes on their own? I feel like i've seen more polls for things lately than I have in years. Sometimes, you have to make hard decisions. Sometime's you'll fuck up, but you keep moving forwards. You always strive towards being better than before.

I have a suggestion. Resistance to a draft is because people don't want to be separated from their friends, right? So how about the armies swapping a few whole squads (keeping the squads together), with a view to balancing out the skill levels between the armies? Squad members can even keep their ranks.

I'll be completely honest here, I don't think the skill imbalance is nearly as bad as people are making it out to be, it's just a morale issue. Equinox can easily be a match for VBD if we play at our best, we've had close games that have ended with like, 10 points difference. We've beaten vbd mixes.

I've played with plenty of people from renegade, and even though they've had a poor record this war, They are easily a match for vague memories and umbra. They've been losing, yes, but they have so much potential. And, I mean a match for them right now, without a month long training montage.

I can't say much else for terminus/bellator/redwatch/legacy, as I don't know who's active in there.

But it's 100% a morale issue in my mind. People lost, and that made them not want to play and give it their all, and that made them lose more, and so on. What really needs to happen is something to fix the morale problem, not a skill imbalance (which does exist somewhat, but could easily be overcome with a little bit of practice. The most infuriating thing I hear in the casual vs competitive argument is the casuals not wanting to practice in order to keep up, but still complaining about losing. Surprise.) What that morale solution is I don't know.

[Seerow]

I'll be completely honest here, I don't think the skill imbalance is nearly as bad as people are making it out to be, it's just a morale issue. Equinox can easily be a match for VBD if we play at our best, we've had close games that have ended with like, 10 points difference. We've beaten vbd mixes.

its been a while since Equinox has actually had a close game with VbD (since August 2nd which was by 1 extraction point in a game of extraction that VbD won.) Every other game since then has been around 50 point+ win by VbD sometimes doubling Equinox's score. VbD has lost one game since they started playing this war (a Forfeit which was probably connection related) and every other one they've won so I honestly don't know what you're talking about Silver.

[Barry Soap]

its been a while since Equinox has actually had a close game with VbD (since August 2nd which was by 1 extraction point in a game of extraction that VbD won.) Every other game since then has been around 50 point+ win by VbD sometimes doubling Equinox's score. VbD has lost one game since they started playing this war (a Forfeit which was probably connection related) and every other one they've won so I honestly don't know what you're talking about Silver.

? He's not wrong, for us not practising I'd say we've done pretty damn well without having practice. That being said, the only reason we have preformed poorly recently is PURELY down to morale. Can you blame any of the Equinox members for not really trying in games that we know won't affect the outcome of the map?

Also, I've said this many times but I may as well echo it - I personally enjoy playing VbD because I know they're better than me but that isn't consistent across all of REDD. Recruits come into FC and are told that the community is lightly competitive. So when they come to battle night and get destroyed and demoralised, it basically makes recruiting low-skilled players pointless.

[Houdini]

What I want is for WC to come to a decision to make a change. Without community feedback. I find our leaders are relying a bit too much on community feedback. What's the point of having leaders if they can't take initiative and make changes on their own? I feel like i've seen more polls for things lately than I have in years. Sometimes, you have to make hard decisions. Sometime's you'll fuck up, but you keep moving forwards. You always strive towards being better than before.

Community feedback should be very important. Without the community what are we? That said, I can't imagine any decision putting the community in a worse place.

I'll be completely honest here, I don't think the skill imbalance is nearly as bad as people are making it out to be, it's just a morale issue. Equinox can easily be a match for VBD if we play at our best, we've had close games that have ended with like, 10 points difference. We've beaten vbd mixes.

I've played with plenty of people from renegade, and even though they've had a poor record this war, They are easily a match for vague memories and umbra. They've been losing, yes, but they have so much potential. And, I mean a match for them right now, without a month long training montage.

I can't say much else for terminus/bellator/redwatch/legacy, as I don't know who's active in there.

But it's 100% a morale issue in my mind. People lost, and that made them not want to play and give it their all, and that made them lose more, and so on. What really needs to happen is something to fix the morale problem, not a skill imbalance (which does exist somewhat, but could easily be overcome with a little bit of practice. The most infuriating thing I hear in the casual vs competitive argument is the casuals not wanting to practice in order to keep up, but still complaining about losing. Surprise.) What that morale solution is I don't know.

I obviously cannot know about the morale situation in red right now, but the stat book is pretty telling that we do have a skill imbalance. I can't remember playing in a war with this lopsided of games. I see maybe one game that was even remotely close on last Battle Night.

[CAW0139]

What if we split the difference between squad draft and player draft. It seems to me like the majority of people are opposed to a draft, but what if we try taking each squad splitting it in half (to keep at least some of each squad and friends together) and the have red and blue give a half from each squad to the other army. It keeps some friends together still. As people have mentioned, they can still play together outside of Battle Night. And the rosters get a little bit of a skill mix up. I agree with Silverstreek that it may be more of a morale thing, but new people can easily correct that if the Battle Nights become closer in competition.